Update! New Pics~Baby Doll Cochins! My 3 year project is hatching the final Pure Bred generation ton

[BunnyMomma]

Hi Sierra View, Sorry that you felt I was giving you a sales pitch, that was certainly not my intention. I just thought you were interested and thought I'd offer. I think you would love them since you are a cochin lover like me. Also, in my culling program, it is fair to say that any breeder in the first few years of a serious project would cull their project birds carefully so that no problems would be passed on to future generations. I would not want to pass my culls on to anyone as pets. It is so much work to get to this point, and it would possibly ruin the work I've done to this point. I could see selling culls from show birds, that are not from a project. I couldn't imagine selling a cull from one of my Baby Dolls at this point in the project. Maybe in a year or two, but right now, no. I didn't mean to sound evil about my culling.I was trying to convey a seriousness about my project work. I'm sure anyone that is seriously working on a project of any breed will tell you that culling is just a part of the work. I love my animals, and am a great caretaker of my family and pets.
Also, my "Baby Dolls" started as a hybrid mix, and if you will compare photos of your tiny cochin, to my cochins, you will see some distinct differences. The tiny cochins hatched from purebred cochins, will still have large features that outweigh the birds frame. The beak will be too large, the feathering will also be too large, and there are other features that will be out of proportion on the small non-hybird chickens. On my "Baby Dolls" I have bred smaller, proportional features into the line, so that the bird will be more typey.
There is much more to this project than meets the eye!

Here is a closeup of a "BabyDoll" Face that gives a clear picture of the work i've done to refine the features of them. The Birchen Cochin in the front is a "Baby Doll" and the splash cochin is a normal cochin bantam. If you look at the photo of your small bantam, you will notice that the features are not as fine and are slightly out of proportion to it's body.

 

[Mr. Ree]

Silkie and Cochin bantam breeders all over the country need to know how to accomplish doing something like this in such a short amount of time.


~Casey

 

[BunnyMomma]

Silkie and Cochin bantam breeders all over the country need to know how to accomplish doing something like this in such a short amount of time.


~Casey

Why would Silkie and bantam breeders need to know this? They are busy with their own projects and showing their beautiful award winning birds. This is my project. I don't really think that all the Silkie and Cochin breeders across the country are sitting up at night racking their brains over how I accomplished this!

The people that are interested in my "Baby Doll Cochins will be buying them as pairs and trios, and will be using them for garden pets, breeding stock, and working on the project with a group of other "Baby Doll" enthusiasts. I am going into my 4th year with this project and it would be a step backwards for other breeders to start where I did and work for 3 to 4 years to get to this point. It would be a costly and time consuming venture. It would be more cost effective for them to just acquire a pair or trio to begin with.

Example: I purchased some Foley Line BLRW's early this year. I appreciate the immense amount of work has already been done by other breeders to bring the BLRW project this far. I would never dream to start my own line of BLRW's, since I could enjoy raising some fine birds that have been bred by a knowledgeable breeder. I am happy to have the opportunity to own such nice birds.

It is very similar to a cake recipe. Even if I gave you the recipe,(and I'm not going to do that, by the way) the ingredients that another baker uses, might not give the same results. Most people do not ask how to accomplish a project like this in such a short amount of time.The majority of people that I talk to about this just appreciate the work that I have done.
~Jody

 

[Mr. Ree]

Im not saying anyone is doing this, I dont know anyone who would want to spend the money on some kind of "project" like this. What I am refering to is that most breeders in this country who raise/show Silkies and Cochins have birds that are larger than the stanard calls for. Alot of people could benefit from knowing how to "create" such small sized birds, expecially since you claim to have only used Cochin Btms in this "project".

And baking a cake is very different than breeding an animal, there is nothing baking cakes and raising/breeding animals have in common, other than the fact you start with one thing or group of things and end up with one thing.


~Casey

 

[BunnyMomma]

Hi Casey ~
I do not show birds yet, so I cannot give advise to breeders and people that show. They would be better served by getting advise from a fellow breeder that has the small show cochins. It would be possible to breed show stock to my "BabyDolls" to get smaller chickens, however you might lose some quality, and would probably need to breed back any quality that was lost in the breeding. This is just my thoughts, but it would be interesting to find out.

Baking is very similar to breeding. Both parent birds are the ingredients (DNA), God is the baker, and we are the guest at the party.

 

[sutillman]

I just simply cannot understand why everyone is being so negative about BunnyMomma's project. She simply has a project she wanted to share with the chicken world. She has said they aren't perfect and they aren't near show quality yet. Give some support people! Discouraging remarks will make some new people not even try to improve what they have because they think what they have will never be good enough for the folks on here to approve of. I for one applaude what you are doing Jody and can't wait to get my birds to help further you efforts!

 

[BunnyMomma]

Casey~
Pardon me? I absolutely do know and I completely understand what the standard of perfection calls for. If you will read what my goals are for these birds it will give you a better understanding of what I am doing with these birds. You are missing the point, by trying to judge these birds by the SOP. You are missing the point, by trying to place my project in a cookie cutter, breeding program.

Again, I have never, ever, stated that these were show birds. They are purely for pets, backyard enjoyment, and an ongoing project for ornamental pets at this point. Eventually they may be recognized by the SOP and the BSOP, but that will take a few years of hard work by several people to reach that goal. In the meantime, I am satisfied to enjoy them as they are. They are very special, at least to me and to others involved in the project.

Again, I am not able to give advise to breeders on how to breed smaller show cochins. I am not qualified to give that type of advise yet. If I did try to give advise about how to breed smaller cochins, you would probably bash me. It is a no win situation.

My advise to you would be to relax, and enjoy showing your beautiful white frizzle cochins. You certainly have some of the best looking birds in the country. Don't worry yourself with my project!
~Jody

 

[BunnyMomma]

I just simply cannot understand why everyone is being so negative about BunnyMomma's project. She simply has a project she wanted to share with the chicken world. She has said they aren't perfect and they aren't near show quality yet. Give some support people! Discouraging remarks will make some new people not even try to improve what they have because they think what they have will never be good enough for the folks on here to approve of. I for one applaude what you are doing Jody and can't wait to get my birds to help further you efforts!

God bless you! I am so happy to have such great support from such incredible people like you. There are always going to be a few negative remarks from a few negative people.
Most projects and inventions have naysayers. I love my little cochins and I know that you will too! I will never let anyone discourage me! I don't care if everyone likes them. Cute and cuddly is not for everyone! There are plenty of breeds in the world for everyone to find something that they love. These birds just happen to be my passion. The F5 generation is maturing quite nicely, by the way! I think you will be pleased with your "Baby Dolls"!
Jody

 

[NYREDS]

Jody,

Unlike most of the so-called projects people talk about here you actually have a goal you're working toward. In most other cases project is a synonym for mutt.
Like sutillman I don't get the negativity much less the hostility. A line from an old Ricky Nelson tune says " you can't please everyone so you got to please yourself". If you're happy with what you're doing that's all that matters.

 

[Gofygure]

I agree. You have a goal and you seem to be succeeding admirably. Well done.