USDA being sued by HSUS

[DuckLady]

Anyone remember the topic here?

There are topics that are not allowed through long experience because they cause heated debates that end up very ugly.

Please remember that typed "voices" are easily misinterpreted, so use consideration in posting.
Thanks.

 

[meriruka]

Settin'_Pretty :

Yep, you're right, but I also have the right to ask questions to try and get a feel for where someone is coming from, which I did, and I felt comfortable with the answer I got, so was your post just a troll?

No trolling here. Your question came off sounding like "What right do you have posting on a chicken forum if you don't eat eggs or chicken."

I understand your concern for people unable to provide their own food. Though I am vegetarian, I have no problem being at the top of the food chain. However there is no need to be cruel to the animals that provide our food. Whether or not that cruelty is exposed the same day or weeks after it happens, it should be exposed.
People have a right to know where their food comes from and how it is treated.​

 

[SeaChick]

I don't think we "need" factory farms, nor will people starve to death should they suddenly disappear.

In the last 75 years we've all become so used to CHEAP CHEAP beef and chicken. In our grandparents days it wasn't unusual to have beef only once a week. Now we have it several times a day, odfen in the form of 99-cent burgers that are about the most unhealthy thing you can put in your body.

If chicken and beef weren't mass-produced, but produced by small local farms,
1) it would be more expensive, people wouldn't eat it as often, therefore people would be healthier and not so obese
2) the beef itself would be healthier to eat (grass-fed versus garbage-fed)

Yeah, we have more people to feed in the USA than we did 75 years ago before factory farms, but we still wouldn't starve. Local farmers would fill the gap, because we don't NEED to eat as much fatty protein as we Americans do...we all know that!

We would be healthier. The environment would be healthier. The animals would be happier.

Just my 2 cents.

Stacey

 

[MTtroutwithwings]

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No trolling here. Your question came off sounding like "What right do you have posting on a chicken forum if you don't eat eggs or chicken."

I understand your concern for people unable to provide their own food. Though I am vegetarian, I have no problem being at the top of the food chain. However there is no need to be cruel to the animals that provide our food. Whether or not that cruelty is exposed the same day or weeks after it happens, it should be exposed.
People have a right to know where their food comes from and how it is treated.

(DEEP,DEEP VOICE) Yeah!

 

[Settin'_Pretty]

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No trolling here. Your question came off sounding like "What right do you have posting on a chicken forum if you don't eat eggs or chicken."

I understand your concern for people unable to provide their own food. Though I am vegetarian, I have no problem being at the top of the food chain. However there is no need to be cruel to the animals that provide our food. Whether or not that cruelty is exposed the same day or weeks after it happens, it should be exposed.
People have a right to know where their food comes from and how it is treated.

Now you make it sound as though I defend inhumane treatment of animals, please point to the post I made stating that.

Stacy,
75 years ago there weren't 6 1/2 BILLION people on this planet, there weren't even half that many yet.

 

[MTtroutwithwings]

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Ooh,Ooh, I do, I do!

Sue em'! The American people (and the animals) deserve better!

 

[SeaChick]

Settin'

I know, that's why I said there are a lot more people to feed now. However, I don't believe we feed our factory-raised chicken and beef to many people who aren't Americans, and Americans do not need all that we produce by a far stretch. My point is that we Americans produce and consume FAR FAR more beef & poultry that is really necessary or healthy for us to be eating. WE don't need 99-cent burgers. We could do perfectly well saving those 99-cents up and having a nice grass-fed steak or roast once a week intead.

Stacey

 

[meriruka]

Settin'_Pretty :

Now you make it sound as though I defend inhumane treatment of animals, please point to the post I made stating that.

Stacy,
75 years ago there weren't 6 1/2 BILLION people on this planet, there weren't even half that many yet.

Your posts defend the necessity of factory farms.
As far as the cruelty, I was stating my own opinion.​

 

[Settin'_Pretty]

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I disagree with the whole premise that we should shut down factory farms because we don't need 99 cent burgers, or because we would eat healthier if we did, that's socialism plain and simple.
I don't want you or the government or anyone else telling me what I should and shouldn't eat, nor do I believe they should tell businesses how much they can produce and sell.

I don't want my food costs going up because YOU believe I would be healthier if they would just raise the cost of my food until I can't afford to buy it.

I'm all for protecting animals from inhumane treatment, but that can be done without shutting OFF our food supplies.

 

[meriruka]

Settin'_Pretty :

I'm all for protecting animals from inhumane treatment, but that can be done without shutting OFF our food supplies.

Tell me how factory farms can exist without abuse of animals.

Back to the original topic, do you think what organization did was wrong?​