@gtaus, you talk about it being 30 miles round trip to the landfill. I don't think we have a landfill anywhere around here. Odd, I know. We have trash pickup for anything we can't burn. And no recycling. Please don't have a heart seizure! We are waaaay out in the boonies here. Very sparsely populated. There is, as I mentioned, a sheltered workshop for recyclables. We take our aluminum cans and newspapers there. I think it is a little more than 30 miles, round trip. But our local Walmart, where we do most of our shopping, is 60 miles round trips, so this is not a hardship. Church is even farther. This is the cost of living where we do, and it's well worth it. No neighbors in eye or ear shot. No crime. We value our solitude. Couple of old hermits, I guess, lol! Nobody here but just us and our chickens! 
