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Sidewing, Those new beautiful birds you just got, are they local? Or did you have to get them shipped in? The gentleman you noted as the seller is outside of my circle of knowledge, so I was wondering if he is a distant breeder or local. And then I am supposing that you are not so much into hatchery birds as a way to get proper type and conformation, coloring and such. This is what I have come to see… if one wants the real article, you have to pony up with the cash. I have also come to realize it is perhaps the less expensive route to pay up front. Off hand and or from new eyes, that might not make sense, but where you are dealing in years, to grow out and see what one has, and then change and try again, you can loose ten years in a hurry, and not make any progress.

I have to tip my hat to you for what you are doing. I openly applaud those whom endeavor to improve a breed or strain of bird(s). If the question is not to be answered here would you please pm me? I see on the KSL classified adds there is a flock of Icelandic birds for sale, if anyone has an interest in these. I thought that chickens were as common as well 'chickens,' but good quality birds are sort of hard to find, and when found they are of a price worthy of their quality. Some parts of the hobby are not for the faint of heart.

Has anyone fed C.O.B to their birds? I saw some the other day while I was in Cal Ranch and wondered how the birds might like it. C.O.B. is corn/oats/barley and I think it is for horses and perhaps sheep or goats. But a lot of different feeds can be feed off label to your birds. I try to use as many different grains in my scratch as I can. I feel that offering a wide variety of seeds/grain are good for the birds. Each type has 'something' in it that is a little different, even milo, which I do not like much.

Nice day for the time of year,

RJ
 
So chicken logic story. My silkie and her chicks have been living under the coop in a box. This past week, after they've gone to bed, I've been putting them up in the second nesting box in the coop. The nesting box is a box with a divider. "Two nests, one for each broody" I thought. The first nesting box is home to my cochin and her two chicks.

Tonight, it was still pretty light when I went out to close up the coops, so I put the silkie and her chicks in the coop (instead of the nesting box) hoping that they would go to their nesting box. Instead I hear a huge commotion. After things had settled, I looked in the nesting box to see two bantams and six chicks all wedged in the same 1' x 1' nesting box with the other one perfectly empty.

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lisa i am so sorry about your dog :( that would be hard but i think its what is best for him.

rj i have not tried feeding cob to my birds. but one thing to think about is if its whole corn some birds might have a hard time with that, especially the smaller birds
 
ok guys I am packing for my annual trek to AZ   this year is a little different as I am taking all my chcikens with me not just the Seramas.  I had a coop built and delivered to the RV park it is called Cluckingham Palave South,  My RV neighbors are so excited to have them there as I told them I would share the eggs with all.  Lisa I am sorry about your dog but livestock predation can be a death sentence so its a good thing he is gone.  I would be interested in a home made flock block please let me know how you made it.  I will keep in touch with you and tell you about any chickens I run across in AZ   I am taking Seramas and moderns to a huge show in tucson end of nov.  take care everyone and be safe this winter


I love the name of your coop. My friends wife named ours the same and even made us a sign.



Sidewing, Those new beautiful birds you just got, are they local? Or did you have to get them shipped in? The gentleman you noted as the seller is outside of my circle of knowledge, so I was wondering if he is a distant breeder or local. And then I am supposing that you are not so much into hatchery birds as a way to get proper type and conformation, coloring and such. This is what I have come to see… if one wants the real article, you have to pony up with the cash. I have also come to realize it is perhaps the less expensive route to pay up front. Off hand and or from new eyes, that might not make sense, but where you are dealing in years, to grow out and see what one has, and then change and try again, you can loose ten years in a hurry, and not make any progress.

I have to tip my hat to you for what you are doing. I openly applaud those whom endeavor to improve a breed or strain of bird(s). If the question is not to be answered here would you please pm me? I see on the KSL classified adds there is a flock of Icelandic birds for sale, if anyone has an interest in these. I thought that chickens were as common as well 'chickens,' but good quality birds are sort of hard to find, and when found they are of a price worthy of their quality. Some parts of the hobby are not for the faint of heart. 

Has anyone fed C.O.B to their birds? I saw some the other day while I was in Cal Ranch and wondered how the birds might like it. C.O.B. is corn/oats/barley and I think it is for horses and perhaps sheep or goats. But a lot of different feeds can be feed off label to your birds. I try to use as many different grains in my scratch as I can. I feel that offering a wide variety of seeds/grain are good for the birds. Each type has 'something' in it that is a little different, even milo, which I do not like much.

Nice day for the time of year,

RJ


I've fed both oats and barley, but never cob and never whole kernel corn. If it is for horses, it may be rolled corn and barley, as horses have a hard time digesting the harder whole grains, like most livestock animals. I'm guessing chickens would do fine on it, as long as the individual grains weren't too large.
 
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RJ, I used to feed my flock solely on a mixture of oats, barley, wheat, and sometimes sweet feed in the mix, which is rolled corn with molasses. They did fine. I would still like to incorporate grains like that in their feed, but the IFA in Riverton is much farther away now and that was where I'd get the whole grains. I did notice that my girls were rather picky about the barley, however. And sometimes the oats. They much preferred the wheat, probably because it lacked the hulls of the oats and barley. If you mix any of these grains with pellets, I think it's even better because of the improved nutrition, especially for a layer flock. Hope my experience helps :)
 
Hmm, interesting. I went and found the Icelandic ad on KSL and Desert Springs is selling her entire breeding flock. It looks like she invested in more bloodlines after she got some from me. I hope she's doing okay with the hatchery :/ They're beautiful birds, but they definitely need roaming space.
 
Hmm, interesting. I went and found the Icelandic ad on KSL and Desert Springs is selling her entire breeding flock. It looks like she invested in more bloodlines after she got some from me. I hope she's doing okay with the hatchery :/ They're beautiful birds, but they definitely need roaming space.


I hope she is doing well! have not heard from her for a long time. I was just telling a friend a few days ago to check with her on CCL....the ones being sold up in our area around Pocatello to Logan are of such questionable quality...the autosexing does not even work sometimes..I have talked to several people now that have gotten them and been very disappointed.

Red, speaking of which....here is a pic of Lagertha. I've been meaning to send you pics of her all grown up. My husband LOVES her, thank you again :D
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Ohhh she looks so fat and happy and healthy! I'm so glad you guys are enjoying her, Lisa :D My girls are molting and scruffy, haha! I love how Lagertha's coloring turned out. Pretty!
 
Sidewing, Those new beautiful birds you just got, are they local? Or did you have to get them shipped in? The gentleman you noted as the seller is outside of my circle of knowledge, so I was wondering if he is a distant breeder or local. And then I am supposing that you are not so much into hatchery birds as a way to get proper type and conformation, coloring and such. This is what I have come to see… if one wants the real article, you have to pony up with the cash. I have also come to realize it is perhaps the less expensive route to pay up front. Off hand and or from new eyes, that might not make sense, but where you are dealing in years, to grow out and see what one has, and then change and try again, you can loose ten years in a hurry, and not make any progress.

I have to tip my hat to you for what you are doing. I openly applaud those whom endeavor to improve a breed or strain of bird(s). If the question is not to be answered here would you please pm me? I see on the KSL classified adds there is a flock of Icelandic birds for sale, if anyone has an interest in these. I thought that chickens were as common as well 'chickens,' but good quality birds are sort of hard to find, and when found they are of a price worthy of their quality. Some parts of the hobby are not for the faint of heart.

Has anyone fed C.O.B to their birds? I saw some the other day while I was in Cal Ranch and wondered how the birds might like it. C.O.B. is corn/oats/barley and I think it is for horses and perhaps sheep or goats. But a lot of different feeds can be feed off label to your birds. I try to use as many different grains in my scratch as I can. I feel that offering a wide variety of seeds/grain are good for the birds. Each type has 'something' in it that is a little different, even milo, which I do not like much.

Nice day for the time of year,

RJ
Thank you RJ! They are not local. I looked high and low and the only local show quality contact I found had his flock wiped out by a coon. I got these from what I consider to be the top breeder of SLW in the country. I had them shipped in and it was not cheap.

I fell in love with Silver Laced Wyandotte hens and realized this year after, buying, trial, hatching, and error, that I would have to pony up for some good stock if I wanted to have the SLW in my yard that I fell in love with. I will do my best to breed and cull towards SOP and offer this beautiful line to others in Utah that would like to have the real thing in their flock.

Now that I see these birds in the flesh I realize that what hatcheries are selling are SLW colored and patterned "chickens". They are so far from proper APA type, that I think you could sue the hatchery for selling a product that is not what it is titled or sold as.
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I would never do such a thing, but they really are that far from SOP.
 

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