Vaccination for coccidia

[Ray987]

Hello

I've had a bad luck with coccidia, all my hatches getting it at around 30-45 days if age and the latest hatch think it starting they're only 15 days old this time anyways I consulted a vet on vaccination against it and the vet suggested the following:

Baycox (toltrazuril) dosage at the age of 18 days for 2 days followed by ampicillin dosage for 2 days
Repeat once every 15 days or 30 days for the entire lifespan of the bird

I can't find much info about ampicillin but vet said it's to treat any infection caused to the intestinal by coci

I don't like giving meds to my chicks but it looks like I have to, I raise chicks to sell them at the age of 30-60 days and I keep some from each batch for myself to raise for eggs, what the vet suggested as vaccination is not making sense to me do I really have to keep my chicks on meds their entire like!!? Please let me know what you think

 

[igorsMistress]

That sounds crazy to me and not practical if you sell the chicks. Have you tried corid?

What is your normal procedure for introducing the chicks to the dirt and at what age? Are you using the same brooder over and over? The same coop? How does that work?

Have you sanitized the area where you keep the grow outs?

 

[Ray987]

That sounds crazy to me and not practical if you sell the chicks. Have you tried corid?

What is your normal procedure for introducing the chicks to the dirt and at what age? Are you using the same brooder over and over? The same coop? How does that work?

Have you sanitized the area where you keep the grow outs?

I put them on dirt at 3-4 days old in a small run which I built for little chicks only it's summer here temps are 32 to 38 during the day and around 22-25 during the night (i put them in a brooder during the night but no supplemental heat, they keep each others warm enough
It's the same run and same brooder, I do clean the brooder but I don't sanitize (don't know how to) the brooder is made of wood

My first batch of chicks i probably didn't put them on the ground until they were 3 weeks old and only after that they got coci, this current batch I put on the ground at the age of 3-4 days probably why they got coci earlier I do have a problem with the chicks scatter their feed all over the dirt then eating it, not matter what I do they just scatter it around I bought different type feeders and still lol anyways I also think their drinking water could be how they getting it' for my first batch I used well water for their first month then switched to the pipes water (we drink that water too) I can't determine how they getting coci other than water and soil i see no other ways

As for corid we don't have that over here, i did get a medicine with amprolium but it also contains sulfaquinoxaline sodium my first batch which had coci got all heald up and I sold most of them (still have 7 chicks of that batch they're doing great) I was told sulfaquinoxaline sodium is hard on their system so I looked for other options and was recommended to use baycox (toltrazuril)


Note: I've spent the whole day with the chicks today and i haven't seen any red color in the droppings, only a tiny red dot in one poop so I'm not exactly sure they got coci yet, keeping a close eye

 

[igorsMistress]

I put them on dirt at 3-4 days old in a small run which I built for little chicks only it's summer here temps are 32 to 38 during the day and around 22-25 during the night (i put them in a brooder during the night but no supplemental heat, they keep each others warm enough
It's the same run and same brooder, I do clean the brooder but I don't sanitize (don't know how to) the brooder is made of wood

My first batch of chicks i probably didn't put them on the ground until they were 3 weeks old and only after that they got coci, this current batch I put on the ground at the age of 3-4 days probably why they got coci earlier I do have a problem with the chicks scatter their feed all over the dirt then eating it, not matter what I do they just scatter it around I bought different type feeders and still lol anyways I also think their drinking water could be how they getting it' for my first batch I used well water for their first month then switched to the pipes water (we drink that water too) I can't determine how they getting coci other than water and soil i see no other ways

As for corid we don't have that over here, i did get a medicine with amprolium but it also contains sulfaquinoxaline sodium my first batch which had coci got all heald up and I sold most of them (still have 7 chicks of that batch they're doing great) I was told sulfaquinoxaline sodium is hard on their system so I looked for other options and was recommended to use baycox (toltrazuril)


Note: I've spent the whole day with the chicks today and i haven't seen any red color in the droppings, only a tiny red dot in one poop so I'm not exactly sure they got coci yet, keeping a close eye

Are you in the UK? I found this list of disinfectants that are approved. http://disinfectants.defra.gov.uk/DisinfectantsExternal/Default.aspx?Module=ApprovalsList_SI

If not the UK then search farm disinfectant and your country. Or try your country thread here on BYC for help, you’ll probably get better answers.

I would get something to sanitize their brooder and then bring some dirt from a different area in to expose them. It can live in the dirt which is where they’ll pick it up.

 

[Ray987]

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Are you in the UK? I found this list of disinfectants that are approved. http://disinfectants.defra.gov.uk/DisinfectantsExternal/Default.aspx?Module=ApprovalsList_SI

If not the UK then search farm disinfectant and your country. Or try your country thread here on BYC for help, you’ll probably get better answers.

I would get something to sanitize their brooder and then bring some dirt from a different area in to expose them. It can live in the dirt which is where they’ll pick it up.

located in Syria so is it enough to sanitize the run and the brooder? I don't think so as soon as they're out to free range at a month old they'll catch coci wouldn't they, can't sanitize the whole land that assuming i can even find the stuff to sanitize the run

 

[igorsMistress]

L

located in Syria so is it enough to sanitize the run and the brooder? I don't think so as soon as they're out to free range at a month old they'll catch coci wouldn't they, can't sanitize the whole land that assuming i can even find the stuff to sanitize the run

Can you get bleach? If so that can kill it in the brooder, but it would need to be aired out quite well if it’s wood. If what you have worked then I would use that if necessary. Then clean the brooder and leave it in the sun to dry/get rid of odors while you hatch the next batch. Be sure to sanitize between each batch.

Anything you sanitize with won’t work on dirt, so the trick is to expose them early, even if all you do is give them a bowl of dirt from outside in the brooder at first. I haven’t hatched in a while but I put the bowl of dirt in the brooder when I would set it up for new chicks so they were around it from a day or two old.