Vegetarian and/or vegan members of BYC!

[dacjohns]

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Not the OP but . . .

some people feel that milking animals is cruel. Also the typical dairy has a high concentration of animals, not very good living conditions. They don't use any animal products.

 

[SilverPhoenix]

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Most cattle are not farmed humanely at all, unfortunately.

Cows can live for twenty years easily, and most milk cows are slaughtered (for fast food, actually) between age four and seven when their productivity declines. There's also the question of what happens to their calves, and also the way they're crowded into small areas for the sake of saving space... I just don't want to support that. For the time being, unfortunately I have been eating dairy, but I'm hoping to find a humane farm nearby or even get my own miniature Jersey cow when I have my own property.

I'm planning on trying out some dairy free ice cream soon. If that goes over well, maybe I can just switch to that for now and otherwise not eat dairy. I wouldn't miss it that much, aside from the ice cream!

 

[Boyd]

Not to be argumentive...... I had no problem with this thread until sombody said GOOD FOR YOU. YOUR PARENTS DONT LIKE IT BUT DO IT ANYWAY. Unless you are going to preach proper nutrition, many kids make themselves sick by trying to go along with the idea of an unbalanced diet. It is not for everyone, and to follow it you must know proper nutrition. Not something that your average cheerio eating kid is going to know ANYTHING about.

 

[dacjohns]

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Most cattle are not farmed humanely at all, unfortunately.

Cows can live for twenty years easily, and most milk cows are slaughtered (for fast food, actually) between age four and seven when their productivity declines. There's also the question of what happens to their calves, and also the way they're crowded into small areas for the sake of saving space... I just don't want to support that. For the time being, unfortunately I have been eating dairy, but I'm hoping to find a humane farm nearby or even get my own miniature Jersey cow when I have my own property.

I'm planning on trying out some dairy free ice cream soon. If that goes over well, maybe I can just switch to that for now and otherwise not eat dairy. I wouldn't miss it that much, aside from the ice cream!

This could really send the thread on a side track. What is dairy free "ice cream" made of? Artificial ingrediants?

 

[SilverPhoenix]

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That's the thing, though--people in this thread ARE preaching proper nutrition. There are thousands of websites that talk about eating a healthy vegetarian diet and offer advice to do so. It's not hard at all to seek out this information.

I hate to say it, but it bothers me to hear everyone being oh-so-concerned about the proper nutrition of vegetarians. It really is NOT that hard to live healthily on a vegetarian diet with an ounce of effort.

 

[SilverPhoenix]

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Most cattle are not farmed humanely at all, unfortunately.

Cows can live for twenty years easily, and most milk cows are slaughtered (for fast food, actually) between age four and seven when their productivity declines. There's also the question of what happens to their calves, and also the way they're crowded into small areas for the sake of saving space... I just don't want to support that. For the time being, unfortunately I have been eating dairy, but I'm hoping to find a humane farm nearby or even get my own miniature Jersey cow when I have my own property.

I'm planning on trying out some dairy free ice cream soon. If that goes over well, maybe I can just switch to that for now and otherwise not eat dairy. I wouldn't miss it that much, aside from the ice cream!

This could really send the thread on a side track. What is dairy free "ice cream" made of? Artificial ingrediants?

Mostly soy, rice, or coconut milk.

That's all I'm saying on that subject! It doesn't have to sidetrack us if we don't let it.

 

[saddina]

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Most cattle are not farmed humanely at all, unfortunately.

Cows can live for twenty years easily, and most milk cows are slaughtered (for fast food, actually) between age four and seven when their productivity declines. There's also the question of what happens to their calves, and also the way they're crowded into small areas for the sake of saving space... I just don't want to support that. For the time being, unfortunately I have been eating dairy, but I'm hoping to find a humane farm nearby or even get my own miniature Jersey cow when I have my own property.

I'm planning on trying out some dairy free ice cream soon. If that goes over well, maybe I can just switch to that for now and otherwise not eat dairy. I wouldn't miss it that much, aside from the ice cream!

Last year I acquired an extreme cow milk allergy (required hospitalization). I can still tolerate goat's milk so far, but instead of ice creams I've found several sorbets and sherbets that fill that sweet & frozen niche.

 

[dacjohns]

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This could really send the thread on a side track. What is dairy free "ice cream" made of? Artificial ingrediants?

Mostly soy, rice, or coconut milk.

That's all I'm saying on that subject! It doesn't have to sidetrack us if we don't let it.

 

[Katy]

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Most cattle are not farmed humanely at all, unfortunately.

Cows can live for twenty years easily, and most milk cows are slaughtered (for fast food, actually) between age four and seven when their productivity declines. There's also the question of what happens to their calves, and also the way they're crowded into small areas for the sake of saving space... I just don't want to support that. For the time being, unfortunately I have been eating dairy, but I'm hoping to find a humane farm nearby or even get my own miniature Jersey cow when I have my own property.

I'm planning on trying out some dairy free ice cream soon. If that goes over well, maybe I can just switch to that for now and otherwise not eat dairy. I wouldn't miss it that much, aside from the ice cream!

You said at the beginning of this thread that it isn't a thread to bash those who eat meat, but is clearly ok with you to bash those of us who farm and ranch and raise cattle and other livestock. Have you personally visited all the farms and ranches? Unless you have, you have no clue how many do raise their animals humanely. I resent that you lump us all together. I would be interested to know just where you've gotten the information you've formed your opinions from.

 

[dacjohns]

Katy,

I think she may be referring to CAFOs, concentrated animal feeding operations.