Vegetarian Layer Feed vs normal layer feed

[BruceAZ]

the bags of organic soil i bought from costco are pretty smelly as is


so i'm not so sure about using humans' or pets' waste in the garden


i guess this is how the trend of backyard chicken and garden started.. since people want to know where their foods come from..


there are farmers here who use human or pets waste in their farm?

 

[Rod-T]

the bags of organic soil i bought from costco are pretty smelly as is


so i'm not so sure about using humans' or pets' waste in the garden


i guess this is how the trend of backyard chicken and garden started.. since people want to know where their foods come from..


there are farmers here who use human or pets waste in their farm?

The pellets they sell are dry.. no smell to them.. supposedly a slow release..fertlizer.... people use it all the time.. why do you think it's bad. Just sound icky? Lol

 

[varidgerunner]

Nothing like cucumbers grown in dog manure. Once it composts, it's fine. Even if you use straight manure, it's not like the plant doesn't break it down. There are lots of people that have sawdust compost toilet systems and use it on their vegetables. Not nearly as gross as municipal water.

 

[azjustin]

Nothing like cucumbers grown in dog manure. Once it composts, it's fine. Even if you use straight manure, it's not like the plant doesn't break it down. There are lots of people that have sawdust compost toilet systems and use it on their vegetables. Not nearly as gross as municipal water.

Exactly! Composting toilets are slowly but surely catching on, and the "waste" produced after proper composting is exactly the same as compost from plant matter (if done correctly).

 

[Rod-T]

Exactly!  Composting toilets are slowly but surely catching on, and the "waste" produced after proper composting is exactly the same as compost from plant matter (if done correctly).

I can't imagine any manure needing composted.. maybe aged.. so it's not so hot..

 

[azjustin]

Hot composting usually gets everything up to around 140 degrees F and will kill pathogens and parasites. For herbivores it doesn't really matter to hot compost since there aren't many, if any, bugs that can cause problems later. It just speeds up the process.

Manure that is "hot" is not temp, but the amount of nitrogen in it that can burn/kill plants. Composting (hot or cold) allows the N to break down and not eradicate your garden.

This is a good Goog project for anyone who doesn't completely understand.

A quicky search brought this one up: http://garden.org/ediblelandscaping/?page=201104-animal-manures

Good luck.

 

[MeepBeep]

I can't imagine any manure needing composted.. maybe aged.. so it's not so hot..

It's wise to compost (or age) manure when using it for foods that sit on the ground and could have direct contact with the manure that could still have transmittable pathogens in it if not hot composted or aged properly...

In end I agree that if treated properly manure is manure, just have to be careful of how hot it is and the potential for pathogens... I know my moms old septic field that was 'peculating' to the surface before it was redone grew the greenest and healthiest vegetation on her entire 5 acres...

As said 'sludge' now called 'biosolids' (so it sound better) from sewage treatment plants is used in a lot of areas to fertilize fields as the sewage treatment plants need to dispose of it and what better way then to give it away to the local farmers to help boost the local economy...

 

[Rod-T]

Hot composting usually gets everything up to around 140 degrees F and will kill pathogens and parasites.  For herbivores it doesn't really matter to hot compost since there aren't many, if any, bugs that can cause problems later.  It just speeds up the process.

Manure that is "hot" is not temp, but the amount of nitrogen in it that can burn/kill plants.  Composting (hot or cold) allows the N to break down and not eradicate your garden.

This is a good Goog project for anyone who doesn't completely understand.  

A quicky search brought this one up: http://garden.org/ediblelandscaping/?page=201104-animal-manures

Good luck.

I guess the part I didn't understand was the fact that manure from meat eating animals was diferent .. interesting. .

 

[Rod-T]

It's wise to compost (or age) manure when using it for foods that sit on the ground and could have direct contact with the manure that could still have transmittable pathogens in it if not hot composted or aged properly...

In end I agree that if treated properly manure is manure, just have to be careful of how hot it is and the potential for pathogens... I know my moms old septic field that was 'peculating' to the surface before it was redone grew the greenest and healthiest vegetation on her entire 5 acres...

As said 'sludge' now called 'biosolids' (so it sound better) from sewage treatment plants is used in a lot of areas to fertilize fields as the sewage treatment plants need to dispose of it and what better way then to give it away to the local farmers to help boost the local economy...

So these pathogens are mainly from the meat eating animal's. .? I always felt manure was manure .. i knew it needed ageing...this is interesting

 

[MeepBeep]

So these pathogens are mainly from the meat eating animal's. .? I always felt manure was manure .. i knew it needed ageing...this is interesting

All manure has the potential to have pathogens in it, in fact a lot of manure does even herbivore manure, but manure from omnivores/carnivores has a higher potential for some pathogens also omnivore/carnivore manure takes longer to break down naturally... There is also a few other negatives from omnivore/carnivore manure like the potential for heavy metals or other trace elements not found in herbivore manure as readily...