Vent about old age and favorite animals

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I hope I did not seem harsh in my post.
I know the pain you are going through, believe me.
Those who love their animals do not take that decision lightly.

Ok, I have done Fluid Flex with excellent results, and I really did see results in a little as 5 days as advertised. But it is kinda expensive at around $45 per quart.
Banimine injectable can be done but it has to come from the vet and it isn't all that expensive. We keep a bottle on hand for colics and such. We do IV but it can also be done IM.
What about heat therapy to ease the pain?

Is she still chewing her food ok? I had a mare that was almost toothless and we did wet alfalfa cubes and she did great with those.

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Cracked no I did not get harsh in your post at all.I got you need to be a good shepard to HER not your feelings.

Cracked she requires her teeth to be floated 2x a year now.Spring and fall.She goes back and forth between me feeding her Southern states senior or nutreena's XTN which has the highest fat of any horse feed on the market. I have been feeding her the senior and this week because they needed a little more I was also feedign a scoop of beet pulp and a scoop of alfalfa cubes I soaked.

I feed the Nutreena XTN in the past when she has decided to be picky.2 years ago we had a week of temps above 100 and she just totally lost interest in food. So i tried the XTN and THAT she would clean up.It is $21.00 a bag (because of the fat % I am sure) so I keep that as my ace in the hole.

I did try her on Prescription strength glo/chon that the vet had and it DID have that 5 day guarantee. I can't say I saw a difference but it is possible that the difference was the back leg felt better.It was 45.00 for 45 days which is not unreasonable.The Legends shot is 135.00 (administered) for 6 weeks also.

I think I will call the vet tommorow and get the asprin and talk about trying banamine and seeing if it gives her relief. I need an affordable stop gap for 30 days till I cna afford to give her the legends shot every 6-8 weeks .If I don't see results from that I don't know what i'll do because vet is SURE that will give her some relief.
 
Locally the only large animal vet carries only the banamine paste, not the injectable, which is why it is so expensive. The msm/glucosamine I get from the vet as well and it has very high levels of msm. The bute powder he orders in for me specifically because the jar lasts for 60 days (at $40), whereas the paste only lasts for 12 days (at $22.50). But I hear you about the taste. If I run out and have to use paste, it takes me weeks to get her to eat it again. I dust all these things over the top of her feed.

Apparently this vet does not like to order any kind of injectables for his clients to administer, which seems silly to me, but there isn't anything I can do about it. This is a long-running issue between us--if it isn't in a paste form or a pill, he will not prescribe it, but he is the only large animal practitioner here, so I am stuck. LOLOL the only exception to this rule seems to be my stud. He's afraid of stallions, I think, so for Rusty he seems quite happy to hand over any injection I need as long as HE doesn't have to administer it.
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The msm/glucosamine is a long-term thing. It takes a goodly while to build up in the system to where it gives any relief, but once you get that effect, it does seem to last longer. But she still needs the bute. I have considered trying the aspirin instead, but if it doesn't work as well, then I'll have the hassle of trying to get her to accept the bute again--and that really IS a hassle!

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Well I did call the vet today and had a LONGISH talk with her.We have a battle plan. We are on the same page.

I am going to give her the paste bute for a few days and see if that makes her comfortable enough to finish her food.

If not then the vet will com and give her adaquan.There is a loading dose of an injection every 4 days for a total of 4 injections it is IM and she would do the first and then leave the rest with me to give. Total cost is $216.00 but IF it works will cover the mare for 6 weeks.Then she gets an injection each month at 54.00.

Because it will take a few days to 10 days to show results we will also try the bananmine and bute also if neccesary.

She beleives that is the most AGRESSIVE treatment for the mares pain.SO if that doesn't work and we can't get the banamine/bute to help then I will know she is just in too much pain.

But first again I am going to try the gram of bute in a.m. and p.m. for 48 hours to see if that will get her back to eating.That is my last ditch effort to use before really costing the $$$.

I get a paycheck in about 30 days but she is willing to float it to me.

ALso I had not posted this but I have a small in home embroidery business and they are willing to let me digitize their logo and do shirts for them in barter for some of the $$$. At least SHE is , she has to check with the senior partner. I beleive I will be spending alot this year on her comfort.

So some good news.I asked about getting the banamine and paste bute from Jeffers with a script from them and they are completely unwilling to do that.

SO I feel better in that at least I have a plan and I can get her treated in the next few days if I must.But I am going to see if the bute gets her over a hump or if this is going to be her new chronic pain level.

But it was good because we were on the same page, and she is understanding of the daily bute. She is of course not a fan of daily bute and wants me to use ulcer guard if I am going to use it regularly.SO all in all not a bad day and the mare ate both feedings today.Thanks for thinking of me.I thought of posting, but didn't know if I was keeping a dying thread alive.
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I have absolutely no experience with horses so I dont know if this is a stupid suggestion or not. Wintergreen essential oil is mostly salicylate and is absorbed directly thru the skin. Its really effective at knocking back arthritic pain in humans and dogs. We use it for a cauda equina injury on my dog and also for husbands severe arthritis in his wrist. It wont stop the pain but used in conjunction with other treatments it may offer relief and its fairly cheap. It keeps both my dog and my husband relatively pain free for a few hours at a time. Use it as a rub directly on the joint.... can be mixed in a little vegetable oil to help it disperse over the skin.
 
Can't you simply try DMSO with topical steroid. Our vet does this for horses, dogs, and many other species with severe Arthritis. It won't solve your problem, but it will bring pain relief. It works very well, especially if you apply and wrap. And you don't have to worry about milk or meat contamination on a companion animal like a horse.

If you get a year, it's a year. If not, then you may have to keep your memories precious, and say good-bye sooner than you thought. You have loved her dearly for the time you had her. And you have done more for her than many people would have. But there always comes a time to say good-bye. It is just part of life. I'm sorry she is not doing well.
 
I hadn't thought about DMSO and steroid. Ask you vet if that could be an option. BUT make sure you wear gloves when handling DMSO!!
If the vet will not give you the topical steroid what about DMSO and the wintergreen essential oil??
DMSO is a penatrating agent so what ever you mix with it will be introduced into their system

It sound like you have a plan, and I really hope the vet let you barter/trade the injections.
 

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