Very Disturbed by What I'm Reading So Far

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Also I would really like to see BYC get behind a breed purity program of some kind and strongly discourage or even ban all mutts.

As a moderator, I can tell you that this will never happen. This is Backyard Chickens, not the ALBC or the APA or whatever initials go with the "purebred" word association. They have their missions, but it is not the ultimate mission of BYC. Do anyone honestly think that we want this type of policing to be part of our jobs? Boy, would I be more unpopular with some than I am right now, LOL! That is just not the mission of BYC.

As a member, under the conditions the OP set forth, I would then realize that my own grandfather couldn't have been a member here nor could a large portion of our members, those who are actually working on creating a new breed or variety as well as those who just have chickens for fun and eggs and don't give a flying fig what breed they have. That would leave out quite a few of our very interesting folks!

While I completely support the preservation of our endangered breeds, I don't think everyone has the space, money or other resources to get involved in such a breed project or to even separate the few breeds that they do have, endangered or not.

I must agree with Bama Chicken. In the end, there are much larger issues than whether or not your chicken has an in-line pedigree. Each to his own, I say. Variety is the spice of life. There is something to be said for hybrid vigor; it's not a myth. Everyone should do with their flocks whatever "floats their boat" as long as they are properly cared for. JMHO.


It's sort of off the subject, but not really--you remember the potato famine in Ireland? It was because there was only one type of potato and disease wiped them out. Same thing could happen with the monocultures of poultry commercial operations. Backyard breeders would then be the salvation of the chicken.

Folks, let's please not be too hard on the OP. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the subject.​
 
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Well said!
Plainfieldpoultry, thanks for laying it on the line... very good advice for those who want to be serious about breeding. I'm sure you didn't write it for those who were only interested in getting eggs and having pets, nor did I read it as being a suggestion/request that BYC should discourage some people's having "mutts" if that's what they want.
 
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If mutt chickens disturb you so much and bother you maybe you should go turn on the news and watch what's going on in the world and our mutt chickens won't seem like such a stressor to you.
 
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Mr. Malfoy, is that you?

Thought I heard someone muttering about "mudbloods"....
 
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I find the push to make BYC a "chicken police", especially when the the name even implies...backyard. Backyard breeders? For dogs and horses, "backyard breeders" are looked down on. But then, with so many unwanted dogs and horses about, there IS a problem with breeding and breeding and breeding....with chickens not so much
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Just ring the dinner bell if you have a bunch of unwanted chickens! Not quite the same as horses and dogs....
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That said, I understand the desire for breed purity. I grew up on a horse farm that raised and imported a rare breed of horse (Shires). My father did extensive research into the breeding trends and inbreeding of Shires over 10 years, and did a presentation to Princess Anne in England about it. When my folks finally got out of breeding Shires, the breed had finally graduated from the "Rare Breeds" list. They did a lot of work and spent a lot of money bringing new bloodlines to North America (US and Canada).

I see the same in some threads by folks who are looking to bring back some of the rare breeds of chickens, and kudos to them. I know some are also spending a lot of money and time in their projects as well.

As far as crossbreeds and "mutts" well, again, I personally think comparing to "labradoodles" and the like to mutt chickens is apples and oranges. There's not too many "chicken pounds" that I know of, the country already supports "chick mills", and if you have too many, ya eat em! I feel folks should be allowed to backyard breed whatever the heck they want, and if they come up with a fantastic feathered critter, then sweet! It still will lay eggs and taste like chicken, it will just look "prettier".

Course if I want to ruffle feathers, I cannot get over those "Showgirl" chickens. I know some people adore them, but for me....they freak me out
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Doesn't mean I think they should be exterminated, I just don't plan on having any in my flock!
 
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Back OT:

I've seen junglefoul, Green Java Jungle foul (Gallus varius) came to our zoo and are scrawny Macaw sized birds (well slightly larger), but had a different stance, that are loud and aggressive... they didn't really -look- edible due to their size they were like tall bantams, they might have laid an egg the size of a quarter. They could fly just fine (through cover) and had the habit of hiding in the back of the exhibit in the fake jungle foliage - bantam game-foul common here in USA are larger and set more horizontal in the keel.

here's a cool article about chicken genetics: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC45467/
 
Theres no such thing as a purebred chicken. I know people right now working on improving a breed, and in order to do so, they are crossing back with another breed...not another color, another breed. In 2 generations they have gotten to where they wanted, and you'd never know there was another breed used. Is that sacriligeous? Will they be thrown in the Purebred Hall of Shame? Of course not. They improved what they need to improve, they ate what didnt improve, and if you saw them in a show, you'd never know the difference.

They are CHICKENS....we EAT them...we EAT their eggs. Its lovely to have a flock of a breed and see them roaming the yard. Its a beautiful sight. And if I hatch some chickens, and some mutant colors show up, so what??? Eat em, give em away, sell them to people who don't care.

Its not like we're worried about over-population of chickens, that the chicken shelters will be so overrun with unwanted chickens that we'll need some Obama stimulus money to feed them.

Theres a lot of people out there, good people, breeding chickens, trying to breed to the Standard for their selected breed. Its mostly done in the spirit of fun and enjoyment, and hopefully it will stay that way.
 
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I love my mutts.
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My chickens are pets, not show birds, and I don't sell any of them so I don't see a problem with letting my chickens hatch out some mutt chicks...
 
Plainfield, Where did you go? If you feel and believe strongly on this. You should stick around and debate your opinion.
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