that's kind of funny, usually it's dogs and chickens, in this case it's miniature. You did the right thing of course!
Very mad. Need an answer - PHEASANTS KILLED A CAT!!!
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Nice to read this post, I was wondering if I was the only one that doesn't immediately try to kill any predator that comes on the property....
We have a neighbor with a very annoying dog that has chased my chickens, and yes- has killed one. I have chased the dog, thrown things at it, and have had several civil discussions with the neighbor. Neighbor has fixed fences, has electrified fences ect. I have taken the dog to the pound, they have paid fines ect. They have paid for the deceased chicken. We are still civil, and really should be as we live right next door. Is is SO much nicer to be on good terms with neighbors, as we can look out for each other.
Cat lady is probably a lonely lady who loves her cats and does not understand that someone can care about a chicken. She can be reasoned with, if not by you as you shot her cat and she is mad, but by animal control. If you must make a point to her by making her cat disappear, than take the effort to capture it, and take it to the pound, then tell her where her cat is. She can pay a fine and retrieve it if she wants to. This is both a better way ethically, and is less likely to result in bad feelings from other neighbors. Even if you don't give a hoot about what she thinks, there is nothing to be gained by having many neighbors think of you as the cat killer. Most states do protect property owners killing stray animals harassing livestock, but if you don't have to kill, why do it?
Make your pens predator safe. Predators include cats, dogs, raccoons, coyotes ect. You are their caretaker and you need to protect them. Though it is more work than just shoot and bury, protecting them with fencing will work when you are not there or sleeping. If your neighbor's cat can get the chicks, than a raccoon certainly can.
I love the idea of a big rooster on patrol. My cats are repelled by my rooster as well as broody hens. They would take a chick probably, but want nothing to do with the adult birds.
Fencing your property well, will also keep out most predators including the average cat.
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We have a neighbor with a very annoying dog that has chased my chickens, and yes- has killed one. I have chased the dog, thrown things at it, and have had several civil discussions with the neighbor. Neighbor has fixed fences, has electrified fences ect. I have taken the dog to the pound, they have paid fines ect. They have paid for the deceased chicken. We are still civil, and really should be as we live right next door. Is is SO much nicer to be on good terms with neighbors, as we can look out for each other.
Cat lady is probably a lonely lady who loves her cats and does not understand that someone can care about a chicken. She can be reasoned with, if not by you as you shot her cat and she is mad, but by animal control. If you must make a point to her by making her cat disappear, than take the effort to capture it, and take it to the pound, then tell her where her cat is. She can pay a fine and retrieve it if she wants to. This is both a better way ethically, and is less likely to result in bad feelings from other neighbors. Even if you don't give a hoot about what she thinks, there is nothing to be gained by having many neighbors think of you as the cat killer. Most states do protect property owners killing stray animals harassing livestock, but if you don't have to kill, why do it?
Make your pens predator safe. Predators include cats, dogs, raccoons, coyotes ect. You are their caretaker and you need to protect them. Though it is more work than just shoot and bury, protecting them with fencing will work when you are not there or sleeping. If your neighbor's cat can get the chicks, than a raccoon certainly can.
I love the idea of a big rooster on patrol. My cats are repelled by my rooster as well as broody hens. They would take a chick probably, but want nothing to do with the adult birds.
Fencing your property well, will also keep out most predators including the average cat.
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You are one lucky dude. Her husband could have been a real cretin.
You are one lucky dude. Her husband could have been a real cretin.
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Not only small beings. My teenage son tried to help a cat that was caught up in some wire and it bit his hand. The next day he was admitted to the hospital and put on IV antibiotics to control the raging infection from the bite. Our doctor told us cat bite are like injecting bacteria with a needle. You can almost be assured of infection.
Not only small beings. My teenage son tried to help a cat that was caught up in some wire and it bit his hand. The next day he was admitted to the hospital and put on IV antibiotics to control the raging infection from the bite. Our doctor told us cat bite are like injecting bacteria with a needle. You can almost be assured of infection.
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So everything is fine for now. The lady was sad her cat had to end this way, but realized what happened and how rude she was.
As far as being predator proof, Put my pheasant pen in a room in full of starving coyotes and foxes and I will bet $1000 that none will get in. Their was a small 4 inch circle cut out of the back or my pen. It looked like someone took wire cutters and sniped a perfect hole out of it. It may have been some kids in the neighbor hood trying to be funny. This is where the cat must of pulled the pheasant out.
And as far as the chicken pen, it was just a quick little pen out of chicken wire I made yesterday in about ten mins. It was meant just to keep the chicks in, and out of hawks view. I didn't even think of predators beacuse they went going to be in there unsupervised.
So thanks again guys. Ill keep you posted on joey. I noticed he is not as perky as he used to be.
~Bryan
So everything is fine for now. The lady was sad her cat had to end this way, but realized what happened and how rude she was.
As far as being predator proof, Put my pheasant pen in a room in full of starving coyotes and foxes and I will bet $1000 that none will get in. Their was a small 4 inch circle cut out of the back or my pen. It looked like someone took wire cutters and sniped a perfect hole out of it. It may have been some kids in the neighbor hood trying to be funny. This is where the cat must of pulled the pheasant out.
And as far as the chicken pen, it was just a quick little pen out of chicken wire I made yesterday in about ten mins. It was meant just to keep the chicks in, and out of hawks view. I didn't even think of predators beacuse they went going to be in there unsupervised.
So thanks again guys. Ill keep you posted on joey. I noticed he is not as perky as he used to be.
~Bryan
Now that is just plain sad. Dead pheasant, dead cat, stupid husband, dude that has killed someone else's pet animal. The cat was not at fault here, the owner of the cat is at fault and the person who has not predator proofed his pens.
You did not have to kill the cat, you acted in anger, and have only briefly fixed the problem. You really want to be known as the person who shoots cats and leaves them with notes in people's yards?
Better message would have been- your cat killed my bird, please reimburse me for cost of bird and antibiotics, and you can pick your cat up from the county pound and pay the fine there. Hit them in the pocket book, not the heart. You now probably have an enemy for life in the lonely/cranky lady.
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You did not have to kill the cat, you acted in anger, and have only briefly fixed the problem. You really want to be known as the person who shoots cats and leaves them with notes in people's yards?
Better message would have been- your cat killed my bird, please reimburse me for cost of bird and antibiotics, and you can pick your cat up from the county pound and pay the fine there. Hit them in the pocket book, not the heart. You now probably have an enemy for life in the lonely/cranky lady.
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Obviously you have never had to contct animal control about a problem like this. THEY DO NOT SEE OUR CHICKENS AND DUCKS AND PHEASANTS AS PETS AND DO NOT GIVE THREE FLYING FLIPS! Don't you think that the 20,000 plus members here have not already learned that lesson? Try it sometime, let them come to your door and tell you "Oh it is what dogs do" or "Oh it is hard to keep a cat on its own property" or "Oh it did not mean to kill it, it was playing with it, accidents happen" or "Oh sorry, your chickens are not pets and we cannot do anything" or or or
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Oh and I supposed a cat ripping apart a chick fighting for its life is a non-violent aka tea party? No you do not know and that is fact. When it happens to you, then and only then can you have an opinion as to what is right or wrong to do and react accordingly. Until then, you can hypothesize on what you think you would do. Because seeing it and reacting to it vs thinking about what you would do are two very different things. Do not compare pets to children, it is insulting.
I just shot my neighbor's dog in my yard yesterday morning and I was none to happy about it, still am not, but guess what ... I would do it again. Keep your animals at home because I have the right to protect mine and will. And no I did not look out the window and see the dogs and say "Oh I can go kill a dog today" I threw bricks at that stupid thing, yelled at it, tried to scare it away and when it went for my little dog...I killed it.
So for the record...in Southern Oregon, if your cat, dog, mule, pony, moose, camel, rat, rodent, bird, snake or other pet comes onto my property and messes with my chickens, ducks, cats or dog I will shoot it. But I will not cower and hide it I will bring it home to you and tell you I did it.
Obviously you have never had to contct animal control about a problem like this. THEY DO NOT SEE OUR CHICKENS AND DUCKS AND PHEASANTS AS PETS AND DO NOT GIVE THREE FLYING FLIPS! Don't you think that the 20,000 plus members here have not already learned that lesson? Try it sometime, let them come to your door and tell you "Oh it is what dogs do" or "Oh it is hard to keep a cat on its own property" or "Oh it did not mean to kill it, it was playing with it, accidents happen" or "Oh sorry, your chickens are not pets and we cannot do anything" or or or
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Oh and I supposed a cat ripping apart a chick fighting for its life is a non-violent aka tea party? No you do not know and that is fact. When it happens to you, then and only then can you have an opinion as to what is right or wrong to do and react accordingly. Until then, you can hypothesize on what you think you would do. Because seeing it and reacting to it vs thinking about what you would do are two very different things. Do not compare pets to children, it is insulting.
I just shot my neighbor's dog in my yard yesterday morning and I was none to happy about it, still am not, but guess what ... I would do it again. Keep your animals at home because I have the right to protect mine and will. And no I did not look out the window and see the dogs and say "Oh I can go kill a dog today" I threw bricks at that stupid thing, yelled at it, tried to scare it away and when it went for my little dog...I killed it.
So for the record...in Southern Oregon, if your cat, dog, mule, pony, moose, camel, rat, rodent, bird, snake or other pet comes onto my property and messes with my chickens, ducks, cats or dog I will shoot it. But I will not cower and hide it I will bring it home to you and tell you I did it.
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Sometimes I am just amazed at the responses on here, especially if they really read all the posts in the thread.
Sorry about your pheasant , I think you did the right thing after several warnings to the neighbor. I hope Joey recovers.
nancy
Sorry about your pheasant , I think you did the right thing after several warnings to the neighbor. I hope Joey recovers.
nancy
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-I really think your "opinion" might be against the rules on the board. (no flaming...etc.)
-As for calling animal control...not everyone's county or place of residence has one. Heck my county don't even have a pound.
-He doesn't have a "violent" personality just for protecting HIS animals on HIS property.He did give the owners fair warning to keep their cat at home. In my opinion...what else could be done,he called them several times to get the cats,they chose not to comply.
-As for someone running over a child??? I don't think that is really the best example ...Even though some people say their pets are like their children... I really think that a chicken and a child(that is a part of you,that you carried for 9 months,gave birth to,and took care of for so many years) can not be put in the same catagory.
It really comes down to irresponsible pet owners.
And before you get mad at me for quoting you, I want you to know that I was just giving my "opinion" on your comment and its not an attack on you in anyway.
-I really think your "opinion" might be against the rules on the board. (no flaming...etc.)
-As for calling animal control...not everyone's county or place of residence has one. Heck my county don't even have a pound.
-He doesn't have a "violent" personality just for protecting HIS animals on HIS property.He did give the owners fair warning to keep their cat at home. In my opinion...what else could be done,he called them several times to get the cats,they chose not to comply.
-As for someone running over a child??? I don't think that is really the best example ...Even though some people say their pets are like their children... I really think that a chicken and a child(that is a part of you,that you carried for 9 months,gave birth to,and took care of for so many years) can not be put in the same catagory.
It really comes down to irresponsible pet owners.
And before you get mad at me for quoting you, I want you to know that I was just giving my "opinion" on your comment and its not an attack on you in anyway.
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The chickens were in his yard. The cat owner was warned. If The OP doesn't want to keep his birds in a protective iron bubble, it is his right to have them any way he wants as long as they are in his yard. The cat's owner didn't care about the cat. It is their fault, not the OP's. The cat in its own yard is a pet. When it is in the neighbor's yard killing someone else's animals, it's a predator. The OP already warned the neighbor. SHE DIDN'T CARE!!! And if he becomes known as the "the person who shoots cats and leaves them with notes in other people's yards," then maybe irresponsible pet owners will keep their roaming domesticated predators out of his yard.
The chickens were in his yard. The cat owner was warned. If The OP doesn't want to keep his birds in a protective iron bubble, it is his right to have them any way he wants as long as they are in his yard. The cat's owner didn't care about the cat. It is their fault, not the OP's. The cat in its own yard is a pet. When it is in the neighbor's yard killing someone else's animals, it's a predator. The OP already warned the neighbor. SHE DIDN'T CARE!!! And if he becomes known as the "the person who shoots cats and leaves them with notes in other people's yards," then maybe irresponsible pet owners will keep their roaming domesticated predators out of his yard.
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