Vote Yes on Proposition 2

[andehens]

ok, well, I still in CA and I'm still voting NO

 

[mainchick]

I only want the livestock that I buy to be from the kids I know and I watch them raise their projects. I'm sure there are some 4Hers and FFA ers that "cheat" a bit too. I do what I can to keep track. I am going to go read up on the prop 2 stuff now. I want to make an educated decision. whew this is hard stuff!

 

[monty590]

Hello,

I'm new to this forum and this post prompted me to stop reading and start writing.

Perhaps we should stop trusting the gov't to do things for us, as they seem to muck it up no matter how easy the job.

That said, no matter what your vote at the polls in CA, on this subject, all of you have voted in a much more important way. You raise your own chickens.

I suspect this means that most of you don't buy factory farm eggs anymore, and that at least some of you don't buy or eat factory farm chickens anymore.

I've been studying this site for a couple months now and thanks to all of you, by spring I too will be eating 'real' eggs and chickens.

I have been disappointed in the quality of the eggs and chicken that I've been buying at the supermarket for a long while now. They look like a copy of a copy of a clone of a copy of a clone.

I think tomatoes will be next!

Thanks,

Monty

 

[onthespot]

Hi Monty!

(I always wanted to be the first person to say that to someone!) Woot!

 

[kstaven]

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I agree Monty

 

[seedcorn]

i like to recommend 4H or FFA raised beef or pork etc. The animals are walked and petted and pampered and fed the best food avalible until they are processed. they aren't factory farmed and "shot-up" or fed steroids etc.

only if you KNOW the 4H kid and parents and WHAT they feed.

I get the furor over caged layers, it's a lot of hurrah over nothing. IF California runs livestock out of state, they'll just import what they want from some 3rd world country or Mexico because it's cheap--like they did the vegetables and fruits. They will not do w/out or pay more for food(unless some big name chef prepares it).

 

[Birdman18]

Just to let you guys know, this law isnt about stopping people from eating meat or eggs. Its just to allow some room for them, you know these animals sacrfrice their lives for us, the least we can do is give the room and make them comforable. Yes i think its great for everyone to produce their own foods the way nature intended right in our own backyards. I just hope this law does get passed, it wouldnt go into effect until 2015, to give the factory farms time to transition to the free range world. I dont understand why it would take 7 years though.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Birdman,

If you think organization, PETA, ALF, and Farm Sanctuary view this as not limiting meat and egg consumption you need to understand better the ultimate goal of these DOMESTIC TERROR organization: eliminating meat, milk, and eggs from our diets.

Read through this Executive Summary from researchers at UC-Davis, it is pretty enlightening.

http://www.safecaliforniafood.org/sites/default/files/UC Davis Executive Summary.pdf

JIm

 

[Birdman18]

hi lazy farms,

Yes i can see now how that if their were 60,000 hens in a factory their will be less hens to fit in that same space. But would you want eggs from hens that are unhappy or from hens that get a good diet, are happy, and produce better quaility eggs. Less is definely more in this case, you need to look at it from the hens point of view, i would never want to be stuffed in a cage the rest of my life treated like a machine. This is America people wake up!!

 

[Barnyard Dawg]

We raise our own chickens 1 rooster and 28 hens we sell our eggs at a vegan/ vegetarian college where the people realize the importance in cruel free and free range chicken eggs. They are willing to pay the extra cost we sell them for $3.00 a dozen but have been offered as much as $5.00 a dozen. I can't imagine having to resort to commerical eggs, I have seen flats of them at Costco really cheap but you get what you pay for. Ours free-range 24/7, sleep on top of our hen house or pen. My wife knew our white leghorn was getting ready to lay an egg or had already laid some? so she caught her on evening and put her in a holding cage which is larger than a battery cage, she freaked out not liking to be confined, she laid her egg though the next day we had thought she was hiding them but it might have been her first one. I will vote yes, if egg prices go up so be, or import them from other states or Mexico, if the California commerical farmers don't want to abide there will others that wll.