WAhhh! PROLAPSE???!! update..blockage!!

[coopstudent]

OMG! I have NEVER EVER EVER seen this or had to deal with it before...I am soooo sorry to post AGAIn (I had asked about meds and posted about having 2 sick chickens...1 that died 3 weeks ago). I went in to check her (4 yr old 6.5 lb black australorp hen) and shes breathing heavy, very nasty pasted vent, appears to be straining heavily. comb is getting pale, looked closely on her rear and there is a golfball sized section of Instine??? Its pink and smooth and round...outside her body!! POOR CHICKEN!! Her tummy is swollen and she is obviously very uncomfortable when I even try to move her. She hasn't really been laying eggs in a while (due to age??) and was in perfect health up until yesterday. the other one died of similar symptoms EXCEPT there was no prolapse. Could somebody give me links on how to handle the situation??? Also...I heard coccidia (sp??) can cause this. They have not had bloody poops though. I SOOOOOO wish we had a farm vet near by...or atleast a vet with chicken knowledge. I followed the state vet link to do a consult...but its by appt...and hes not available until nighttime.

 

[LynneP]

Separate her

Warm place

Prep H ( no added bentadine, use the original kind) and a latex glove, you must replace the prolapse inside her with a slightly hooked gesture UP. Hold for a bit, keep trying until it will stay inside.

You must solve this or cull her.


Some details

https://www.backyardchickens.com/se...rdchickens.com/forum/post.php?tid=292348#1191

 

[3goodeggs]

Honey will also work. Do a search on internal layers and see if that also fits her.
Sorry things are suddenly going so badly for you!


Welcome to BYC.

 

[coopstudent]

Thank you very much for the wonderful help!! Its very much appreciated! OK...so I armed myself with prep-H (regular kind) and latex gloves (fresh out of honey

( Her prolapse definitely is intestinal .....also, it seems to be coming in/out as she strains really hard. I replaced it in an upward hook and as I was in there made a very interesting discovery!!! A bunch of hard, granular pebbly things...I carefully removed some and saw they were pink. I know EXACTLY what they are...when we built the temp coop on the enclosed porch last month we used a pink foam insulation in the walls. On a couple of occasions we found that the chickens somehow removed the plastic and (in one case a piece of wall itself! and had eaten HUGE amounts of the stuff! We of course removed all traces of it and opted for just uninsulated wooden walls. I know this is NOT what happened to our other hen (she was getting ill already before the insulation)...but...could this one be blocked??? I also went and thoroughly checked for any trace of an egg that could be broken (no trace). Could an intestinal blockage cause this??? How can I fix this???? Sheesh...we removed the stuff weeks ago...so this has had to have been in her system that long!

 

[purpletree23]

Oh my gosh!

Can you reach (sorry) back inside and see if there is any other insulation in there and remove it? I'm not an expert but maybe her intestines twisted while she was straining to poo.

 

[3goodeggs]

When the golden retriever ate pine cones (this is where the roll eyes smilie would go if we had one) we loaded him up with mineral oil. That was the $350 advice from the emergency vet (roll eyes again.)
Perhaps that would help. not sure what end to put the oil in, are you up to a chicken enema?
I have no idea if that would work. Birds are SO not mammals. I would try vegetable oil though, not mineral.
Good luck to you. I know that this is difficult to deal with.
They eat the most bizarre things. Sorry about all this!

 

[coopstudent]

Purpletree23...thanks very much for replying and trying to help

I'm planning to go back in and see if there is more in a little while. I'm letting her rest a bit (she was sooo NOT happy with me lol). Shes so sore...I hope her intestines didn't twist!

3goodeggs

) Thanks so much for the help, advice and sympathy! Its much appreciated! LOL, they do eat the weirdest things! I have one that repeatedly pecks at shiny things outside...and then pecks constantly at big plastic or paper bags (like mulch bags) as if she thinks the letters written on them are bugs or something!

I'm really happy to hear that you were able to unblock your doggy! I worked as a vet assistant years back and some of the stuff that dogs (and even cats!) would eat was crazy! The vet I took this one to 18 months ago for diarrhea etc.. scratched his head, said he didn't know and sent me home with 4 meds to try...$350. This poor chicken

My husband and I are going to give her either vegetable oil or olive oil as soon as he gets home in an hour. This method has worked wonders at unblocking crops in the past...hopefully (fingers crossed) it will help with intestines. I also just picked up a fresh bag of vitamins/electrolites and some Duramycin to start (in case of bacterial stuff on top of it). I'm a bit freaked because I know other chickens ate this stuff also...and I have yet to see any pink in anyone's poop!

 

[cobrien]

think the veggie oil is a good idea. maybe feed only easily digestible stuff like yogurt, pureed chicken food, and mashed scrambled eggs for a few days. wondering if there is a safe mild chicken laxative? for cats with hairballs, they are given laxatone, which has goopy stuff (like vaseline) plus a mild laxative to help it pass. does anyone know of a similar approach for birds?

 

[coopstudent]

Sounds like a good idea! hmmmmm...I just looked up laxatives for chickens and I saw something about molasses mixed in water..not clear on the amount you put in the water though. Also...I read about castor oil being used ..1/2 oz per chicken. Has anybody else heard this?? Also...does anybody know if an enema is something that could be done???? I've been trying very hard to get her to eat yogurt and am doing the drip method on the beak with a syringe for water w/ electrolytes+ vitamons mixed in. I also added a bit of duramycin just in case.
OOP..as I type this My husband came to tell me he just successfully managed to get 2 small syringes of the vegetable oil in her...fingers are crossed it will help.

 

[ilovebuffs]

If you put enough molasses in her water to make it look like tea...that is what I've read on here. I found this on a botulism thread about the amount...

LAXATIVE SOLUTIONS
The following solutions or mixtures are recommended to flush the digestive system of toxic substances, most notably for treating birds exposed to botulism toxins.Molasses Solution Add one pint of molasses to 5 gallons of water. Offer the drinking solution free-choice to the affected birds for about four hours. Treat severely affected birds individually if they cannot drink. Return the birds to regular water after the treatment period.

I hope this helps.