want to find TOP QUALITY Black Cooper Marans Breeder who ships CHICKS!

[crazy4eggsJulie]

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[onthespot]

Lots of negative energy in this thread... If your mind is that easily blown and you are that misunderstood that often, Copper Black Marans might not be the breed for you. It is a breed with a LOT of strong opinions, people who feel strongly about their breeding projects, who work hard and sacrifice WAY more than they make selling birds and eggs if they are in it longer than a season. The breed is just coming into its own as far as APA recognition and it is at a crossroads with the standard, the accepted colors, plumage, angles, eyes, you name it. There is a lot at stake and for you to just post and expect the best, for reasonable price within a two hour drive of your house is just unreasonable. It is a RARE breed! It is a POPULAR RARE BREED and right now prices are high and top notch stock is scarce. That is just the law of supply and demand. It is not "about you" per se, so try not to make it "about you" and just keep looking at the best birds, track prices and locations and sooner or later the lines on your graph will cross where the birds near you are affordable and high quality. Then you buy.

 

[crazy4eggsJulie]

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[boaz]

Negative personal characterizations posted here lead to conflict - always have, always will; hence where we are now. We should be able to discuss chickens ad infinitum as that is the nature of this forum and not air business communication as if it were personally directed. It was a business decision to not sell to you and apparently a wise one. I think all of Ruth's followers wish you the best; I know that I do.

 

[EweSheep]

Haven't you check out the Marans Club??? If not, there are breeders out there that can help you decide which it would help you.

As for dark eggs as you wanted, its a gamble. Your best bet is to buy a pullet or hen that has been laying dark eggs and you can pick her out according to the dark eggs that your kids loves. Yes, you would pay alot more than chicks but it would save the time of raising and waiting for that special girl to lay and then find out she only lays milk chocolate colored eggs.

I wish you well, I am sorry it is a hot touchy subject but understandably so. If you look at the past notes on Marans, sometimes it gets flared up and confused because the breed is so new. Once the standards come out, we would get settled down.

They also have the egg chart, which you can take a look at and see what # of egg shell color you want and then ask the breeders if they do produce or have #? numbered egg shell color in their flock. If I want a #6 egg color off the Maran egg chart, I would ask around to see if the breeders have something in that range of #5 to #7 egg colors.

 

[crazy4eggsJulie]

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Great idea! Thank you! I think I will pursue this route.

 

[onthespot]

From what I have seen in every breeding program out there, the harder you work on one trait, the more you let go in other areas. The breeders with the super duper dark eggs often have feather faults and frequent fused toes, weird combs, wrong color eyes and ear lobes, flighty temperament. Just depends what you want. You have to pick your poison when you decide to get an "extreme" breed of anything, dogs, horses, chickens, even goldfish.

 

[Katy]

I suppose I'm one of the people you consider a Ruth follower. I don't know her other than reading her posts on here. I've never done business with her nor will I probably because I personally don't care for the BC Marans. I'm happy with the breeds that I raise and sell. As I said before I understand her reasons for deciding not to do business with you. The point a couple of us tried to make to you is there are flaws that will not show up in newly hatched chicks, but can be apparent by the time they would be shipped to you....then what would your response be? I think you will find that most breeders replacement policies will differ from the hatcheries who replace dead chicks. The reason a hatchery can afford to replace those chicks as opposed to a private breeder is the hatcheries hatch hundreds or thousands of chicks every week from their mega in some cases run-of-the-mill flocks vs. the breeders who selectively breed from only their best birds on a much smaller scale.

 

[EweSheep]

Yes it would be just as bad as those BLRW breeds and the best specimens can have the perfect lacings and color and very poor layer or nasty temperment.

It is very difficult to breed "extreme" breeds and get it all in one pot. Very difficult! Sometimes you are in the mercy of one line and the other gets carried on.

Research, research and talk to the old breeders that have been raising them for a long time. Bev, Wade and all those wonderful BYC Marans breeders can assist anyone (if they have the time, be patient).

Good luck!

 

[DuckLady]

Please keep personal conflict off the board.

It is one thing to ask questions of a breeder, it is quite another to flame in the process.

It is not what you ask, it is how you ask it.