want to find TOP QUALITY Black Cooper Marans Breeder who ships CHICKS!

[crazy4eggsJulie]

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[EweSheep]

Breeders should be open about sharing information about their flock and the quality they have and what they expect out of their flock.

It is valid reason if you ask for chicks with NO visual defects (anything that the eye can see faults such as splayed legs, blind, crests, wrong leg colors or wrong colored (apart from what you ordered). You DO have a reason to ask that however sometimes breeders can not guarantee if your chicks legs will be crooked at a later age because of nutritrional faults, unknown genetic faults, or occured while shipping which the employees would toss the box around for fun. That is part of the risk.

As for the cost, of charging TOP dollar, this is America and anyone can charge any price for their chicks or eggs. If one dont like the price, go find something else that is more reasonable for your pocket book. Breeders themselves have bought the birds or chicks at a high price and they would pass down the price to customers they feel they need to charge for a better bird, sometimes even better than the parent birds.

No, it does not matter if you are new or experience, the information applied to everyone. We will try to help the newbies with information and guide them to the right person or breeder that we heard they are good and others personally purchased the birds/chicks/eggs from this particular breeder you want to get or get lines from like Wade lines.

Simply put, do alot of research and learn all the way. I still am with the Welsummers and still learning and supporting newbies to guide them the right way and they, alone, can make informed decision on the information they have on Welsummers, breeders vs hatchery and high price/low price.

 

[ruth]

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[onthespot]

I'll sell you as many chicks as you want, but you have to come in person and choose the chicks "without any flaws" from a group of about fifty growing out. They are past chick stage. They are feathered out and in outside pens so it should be easy to choose the best from that pen. They are $50 apiece for top choice birds. You can look in the pen next door to see the parents to ascertain if they meet your standards. You can sit all day with your hand in the nestbox. My hens are freindly and will walk right into the box and lay an egg in your hand. That way you will know which hen laid dark. (They ALL lay dark, or they wouldn't be in the breeder pen.) You can pick up the roosters and carry them around to test their temperaments as well as their wieght and suitability for dual purpose. You will get to hear their baritone crowing. You may even help me feed, water and rake pens to see how they act in normal work situations. When we are done cleaning the pens, you may stretch out your hands, shake a sack or whatever you think will work and help herd the little guys back into their pens to test for trainability and flocking instinct. By all means, come visit! Do chores! Buy birds! By all means, BOOK A HOTEL and bring cash and a carrying cage. Best of luck finding the birds that meet your needs. I think I have them. I doubt you will buy them.

 

[ruth]

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[onthespot]

i would like very much to have some occellated turkeys. I think I would be writing the same sort of PM's to breeders (if I could even FIND one!) and I don't think it's gonna happen any time soon. I don't have the money or the facilties to acquire or keep that kind of bird. Wish I did.

 

[boaz]

Julie,

Perspective is always important! Ruth is my wife and a really good one at that and has kept me up on how we are doing with the chick and egg orders. We have multiiple businesses and not enough time in the day; however, Ruth has always helped anyone that has asked for it, newbie or not. She has also sewn chickens that were injured, made artificial appendages, heated chicks with hair dryers when needed, made tonics, and operated on them for one ailment or another and has always shared that working information with others.

We have started breeding BCMs not opened a factory to make a replicable product, there is an inherent difference in that living organisms have a way of doing the unexpected. We are also in it for the long term; therefore, a reputation for being fair and honest are desirable traits to seek.

To summarize, the internet is available for the world to read and ingest and I take offense at your depiction of my wife. She was polite and answered countless emails and only after we discussed that your expectations were probably unrealistic did she suggest that you give another breeder a try. BTW - this was proper English for "you are way out of line here".

 

[92caddy]

How do I say this without causeing any more issues, ..... with Wade lines of BC, you will get wheaton, I for one dont want that so when I found out I had some of his birds throwing wheaton chicks, they hit the road. I only have Bev's lines now and Im very happy with them, the birds are nice and I love the egg color. My birds from Bev lay a much darker egg then the birds I had from Wade, but thats my birds, Im not speaking for anyone else. .........

Good luck with your hunt..............

 

[Katy]

I can understand Ruth's deciding not to sell to you....I think she is probably right in that you have unrealistic expectations as a new chicken owner that all you want are perfect chicks with no flaws. That in itself equals an unhappy customer more than likely who won't be happy no matter what you do. As has already been said there are a lot of things that show up later and not in a newly hatched chick.

 

[EweSheep]

I can side with Ruth and her expectations when it is concerned about her Marans. Even I do not know her WELL and I've been on BYC for at least 6 to 7 years, reading her comments, she KNOWS what she is talking about even she has bent over backwards in helping any newbies, NOT only you, Julie, but others as well.

I agree with Katy.