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I have found that if you don't want any one touched or moved, lock them up and take the key with you. Some people never remember or understand the whole reason, or at least that is their excuse!!

I agree! Let others know that whatever it is, is OFF LIMITS!, DO NOT TOUCH!
Most people don't remember because they don't care in the same way we do about our "stuff".
They want to help, but they don't really listen to details and try to really understand.
Then they think they are being helpful and screw it up.
And then they don't understand why you are upset.
I really hope you get a good hatch!
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Haven't bought them yet. Plastic are better?

The vinegar causes a chemical reaction with the metal not good for chickens.
we need a discussion on plastic vs. metal waters on here. good and bad points to both
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Is it all types of metal? Is stainless steel ok?
 
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The vinegar causes a chemical reaction with the metal not good for chickens.
we need a discussion on plastic vs. metal waters on here. good and bad points to both
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Stainless Steele is OK, but most fowl founts are galvanized, and can break down to acids when in extreme contact with other chemicals or heat.
That's why it is not used for bar be ques or stoves/ovens.
I use plastic fonts & buckets.

This is good. I use plastic with Stainless Steel nipples
 
While I've not had this issue (broody off the nest - not "helping" husband - mine helps way too much as well) I have read about many times on the broody thread. Because it was warm out, and it was only four hours, I think you still have a pretty good chance of a fair hatch. But if she's like our girl, she will continue to try to sit on the old nest when she's done with her daily outing. I moved our broody hen the day Friday, got the eggs Saturday, and both Sat & Sun after daily outings she is going to the wrong nest/favorite nest in the big coop. I have to herd her to the new coop when she's done. My husband has strict instructions that she is never to be off the nest for more than 20 minutes (30 minutes in guy speak) at a time.

Good luck - I hope your hatch turns out great. And if you end up not having a great hatch, I'd be happy to share chicks that hatch from our broody (also from Candy).

take care; dawn

Thank you for your kind offer dawn. I didn't have any plans to keep these chicks. I had a broody I wanted to "test" just in case I want to use her for future hatches, so it was kind of an experiment. And of course Candy wanted to see how her chicks would turn out so it served that purpose as well. But I had told some friends who are planning to set up a coop soon that they were welcome to all that hatched and I'll feel bad on all counts if these don't hatch now since all of my objectives will not come to fruition.

I checked the broody this morning and she is sitting on them again like a dedicated mama so we'll just have to see. Of course after the ridiculous scene I made last night I don't think poor DH is even going to look at that broody for a while which is too bad since she was "his" chicken.
So I suppose this is one reason we don't count our chickens before they hatch? Because it's so disappointing if something bad happens?​
 
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So pretty! (Wish I could have roos. Love their appearance.) I'm looking forward to seeing what you get from peachicks eggs. I'm always attracted to her auctions, but they usually go SO high. Were they as blue as you had anticipated? Her photos are so saturated with color they almost look enhanced. I'm not saying they are, it's just interesting what different lighting conditions can do to egg color and how different monitors read the colors.
 
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Having neighbors with dogs is a crucial point, I suspect. I know when I could let my dogs run the place (I live on a 40) we didn't lose cats to coyotes, either, but to do that we'd need to pasture fence the last bits of the boundary and keep the gates closed: there's a couple thousand more automobile trips past my place than there were ten years ago. Not that my current dogs are much use for predator discouragment, since they're old (13 and 14) and getting slower and more frail by the day. I've mentioned getting a guard llama to the committee of the whole, but the objections have been: expensive, and too stupid to distinguish between our dogs and invaders.

I know my crucial issue is that I've got blackberries and plum suckers providing cover for mammalian predators (and the former, food for and bait to rats, raccoons, and possums) but neither my husband nor I are up to clearing the mess and the money's not there to hire someone.

Sorry you lost your beautiful bird; sorry to for Tamara's dog: both losses struck close to home and switched my brain to lecture mode. My bad.

I used to own llamas - they are one of the cheapest pets to keep, way cheaper than dogs or even cats. They also are pretty smart, smarter than horses but not as smart as dogs. Unfortunately, in the North Bend area, cougars take llamas fairly regularly, so they are not the best guard animals.

This is Yasha, he was my favorite of my 3 llamas. I paid about $400 for him as a baby (my others were half that price), and because they are considerd livestock, he was cheaper than my cats to have him altered (males have internal organs, so you can't just put a rubber band around them). Yasha was a great lawnmower; he'd eat the lawn even, so the neighbors used to borrow him and tie him out when their mower was broken. Most days the llamas just grazed, we sometimes gave them a little alfalfa flake or pellets, but it wasn't really needed. They got plenty just foraging. Llamas LOVE blackberry bushes! their poop,with resembles deer poop, makes great fertilizer. Unfortunatley, kids loved Yasha too, and all the kids on the neighboring properties would feed him vegetable scraps, carrots and apples. One day a kid fed him rhodadendron leaves and he died.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/72609_yasha_001.jpg

Cool llama and a nice setting with the mountain in the background.
 
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