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Ok. So maybe all you peeps out there with more experience with roos than me can help.
My Wheaten Am cockerel is asserting himself with the older girls I have.
But he is really harsh with my BR in particular.
Thumps on her head hard enough that I can hear it!
He chases her and she runs.
If he catches her, she squats, and he mounts, after he pecks her.
A few time he just pecked her really hard on the head.
Is he just ticked that he had to chase her?
He made her comb bleed a little, and I can see bruising on the back of her head.
He isn't yet trying to mount the other two older girls that I have seen.
Has anyone seen this before?
What do I look out for?
What should I do?
He is going into time out tomorrow while I am at work.
I don't want to come back to a bloody mess of one of my hens.
 
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I am so sorry! I hope things get better, or at least a little less painful. Kids can hurt you in so many ways. And they usually don't think much of it. Until later in life.
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Thank you so much for the good thoughts. I do think we will be able to maintain a relationship with him. He is a good kid...but he is carrying a lot of baggage that he has never delt with and he is angry.

I do not know if you all remember...my kids are 3 sibllings that we adopted. (told the kids we were not good looking enough to have kids...so we went and adopted some real good looking ones....LOL). Anyway, he is making some poor decisions, but he has a job, is continuing with football and is we will see how well he does at school. He will realize it eventually (maybe by the time he is 40), but right now I truly think that this is the best thing for the entire family. I pray every night for his saftey and for the healing of my family. Everyone else is doing well and the house has calmed down tremendously.

I know where you are coming from! So hard to deal with kids when they aren't in a place to help themselves. If anyone out there has any good ideas on how to help a kid deal with baggage or even get them to a place where they even think about dealing with it please feel free. "Just keep loving them" never seems like enough.
 
I am really, really lucky in my son. The worst he's ever worried me (excluding the time he decided to walk the back way home from school when he was 17 and didn't realize that the way he took was nine miles) was when I thought he'd spend the rest of his life in his room playing WoW and drinking Guiness, but that was a short phase.
 
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Thank you so much for the good thoughts. I do think we will be able to maintain a relationship with him. He is a good kid...but he is carrying a lot of baggage that he has never delt with and he is angry.

I do not know if you all remember...my kids are 3 sibllings that we adopted. (told the kids we were not good looking enough to have kids...so we went and adopted some real good looking ones....LOL). Anyway, he is making some poor decisions, but he has a job, is continuing with football and is we will see how well he does at school. He will realize it eventually (maybe by the time he is 40), but right now I truly think that this is the best thing for the entire family. I pray every night for his saftey and for the healing of my family. Everyone else is doing well and the house has calmed down tremendously.

I know where you are coming from! So hard to deal with kids when they aren't in a place to help themselves. If anyone out there has any good ideas on how to help a kid deal with baggage or even get them to a place where they even think about dealing with it please feel free. "Just keep loving them" never seems like enough.

I am so there with you. You can just keep on doing that...but it just doesn't help does it? but that is about all I got. How about...just keep tolerating them and you will love them again some day....I am a believer of love comes and goes....you just got to like them all the time. My grandmother told me that.
 
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Thank you so much for the good thoughts. I do think we will be able to maintain a relationship with him. He is a good kid...but he is carrying a lot of baggage that he has never delt with and he is angry.

I do not know if you all remember...my kids are 3 sibllings that we adopted. (told the kids we were not good looking enough to have kids...so we went and adopted some real good looking ones....LOL). Anyway, he is making some poor decisions, but he has a job, is continuing with football and is we will see how well he does at school. He will realize it eventually (maybe by the time he is 40), but right now I truly think that this is the best thing for the entire family. I pray every night for his saftey and for the healing of my family. Everyone else is doing well and the house has calmed down tremendously.

I know where you are coming from! So hard to deal with kids when they aren't in a place to help themselves. If anyone out there has any good ideas on how to help a kid deal with baggage or even get them to a place where they even think about dealing with it please feel free. "Just keep loving them" never seems like enough.

I wish it was enough!
But he has to realize he has things to deal with and then make the effort to deal with them.
You can't do it for him unfortunately, but you can let him know that you are there to help him in any way you can.
I have heard adopted kids deal with some issues that other kids don't.
Especially abandonment issues and anger issues.
My son's GF is adopted and her mom has told me a few things.
Some of it is just being young, impulsive, and only out for #1.
That does tend to change with time and some hard knocks.
 
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I know where you are coming from! So hard to deal with kids when they aren't in a place to help themselves. If anyone out there has any good ideas on how to help a kid deal with baggage or even get them to a place where they even think about dealing with it please feel free. "Just keep loving them" never seems like enough.

I wish it was enough!
But he has to realize he has things to deal with and then make the effort to deal with them.
You can't do it for him unfortunately, but you can let him know that you are there to help him in any way you can.
I have heard adopted kids deal with some issues that other kids don't.
Especially abandonment issues and anger issues.
My son's GF is adopted and her mom has told me a few things.
Some of it is just being young, impulsive, and only out for #1.
That does tend to change with time and some hard knocks.

these are some of the things my DS is going to have to work through.

He has to be angry. At the age of 7 HE was the parent of 3 siblings and 2 parents. He protected and fed them. changed diapers, etc. Middle son talks ALOT, so he is fairly stable. We have done a lot of talking regarding his past. I think middle DS would make a good lawyer. Daughter was a baby.
 
I made it through the weekend Although it was not a good weekend I di make enough to cover costs and still make a couple $$> I am whooped and going to bed. I have to get up early in thr am to ulnaod all that junk out of thr teh trk,
 
I am so mad! Unfortunately I can't be upset with DH, (even though there are a couple of other names I'd like to call him right now), because he thought he was being helpful with his interfering. I'm maddest at myself for not spelling things out CLEARLY for him since I know not so subtle clues don't work for him.

I moved the broody with Candy's EE eggs into the small coop and run yesterday. The barnevelder had been climbing into the same nest where the broody was setting. I found 4 of her eggs in there when I moved the nest yesterday! So I watched the broody carefully after the move, and was pleased at how easily and nicely she settled into her new digs where no one could bother her, climb into her nest, disturb or break "her" eggs, etc. All good. I tell DH what I had done and why. I tell him I expect chicks to hatch on September 1st and that they have a nice safe coop all to themselves.
This morning before I left for another long day at the theater I check on all the girls. The big girls were all free ranging in the back yard, and the broody was on her nest in her closed run.
I got home about 5:30 this evening, DH and I had plans and we jetted back out the door 5 minutes after I returned. So on the way home I'm talking about how excited I am that the chicks should hatch this week. " I don't know how" he says, "Whitey's not on that nest. I couldn't find her this afternoon."
WHAT?
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" I opened the little coop and she was out wandering around and never came back to the nest." Right, because in the first place she shouldn't have been let out of that run because she had only been moved yesterday, and probably was confused and unable to find her nest and eggs!!!
Grrrrr!!!
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The second we got home, (about 30 minutes ago) I checked and sure enough she had gone back to the big coop and was sitting on an empty nest. I have no idea how long those eggs have been left unattended. It would have been at least 5 hours. I pulled her out, put her on the egg filled nest again and she appeared to settle back down on them again.

So, hoping the past 2 1/2 weeks have not been in vain, I'm asking if there's any chance for them? How long can developing eggs be left when they're just 4 days from hatching?
I'm so aggravated right now I can't even look at DH. I know he was trying to help by opening her run and letting her out but he knew she's been sitting on fertile eggs so it would have been nice if he'd let me know that she'd lost her way back to the nest and he couldn't find her!
What do you guys think? Just 4 more days was all we needed...
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