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[hallerlake]

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I was restless, so I went out and got soaked.

I used up my good weather today retrieving my sister's pocket knife out of the pasture, and am now wishing hard I owned a pair of waders so I could do all the wet and messy outdoor work I had planned. I may just tailor an ad hoc rainsuit out of garbage bags, or something.

I actually have a rain suit that I never think to wear. I bought it for hort school. I got it in my head that I wanted to go get the Rhododendron oreotrephes Mom promised me before she died, and nothing was going to stop me. Fortunately, rhodies have small root systems relative to their size. All species plants have a lot of variation. The flowers on Mom's are luminous against the blue leaves.

 

[Chickielady]

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File` is a spice, ground fresh leaves of the Sassafrass, started by Native Americans long ago.
Cedar can be an issue for chicks, if enclosed, or any animal, if enclosed with no ventilation, like a Hamster in an aquarian with no vented lid.
Chicks have immature lungs and it can be an issue.
Mine are in open topped pens.
I use white shavings for chicks anyways.
I use Cedar for the adult birds.
Every coop has windows which are never shut completely despite the temperature.
Birds must always have fresh air, cedar or not.

I love the fresh cedar in the coops, and the anti-insect qualities I believe are a great help against mites & lice.
Seriously, have been using cedar shavings for decades.

***Edited to add: This is kiln dried Cedar shavings.so it is not as if I just ground up a tree********
I do not recommend Cedar for immature birds.

Thanks!! good to know!! And yes I have actually seen issues with small rodents in enclosed living quarters, makes sense to me!! Well, that's why I asked!! You learn something new everyday!!! And I know the source is a very knowledgeable one!!!

Trial and error and age my dear

 

[hallerlake]

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Chickens recuperative powers are amazing, aren't they?

 

[Chickielady]

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I used up my good weather today retrieving my sister's pocket knife out of the pasture, and am now wishing hard I owned a pair of waders so I could do all the wet and messy outdoor work I had planned. I may just tailor an ad hoc rainsuit out of garbage bags, or something.

I actually have a rain suit that I never think to wear. I bought it for hort school. I got it in my head that I wanted to go get the Rhododendron oreotrephes Mom promised me before she died, and nothing was going to stop me. Fortunately, rhodies have small root systems relative to their size. All species plants have a lot of variation. The flowers on Mom's are luminous against the blue leaves.

Owwwwwwwwwww I would love to see a photo!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chickielady]

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Chickens recuperative powers are amazing, aren't they?

Yes indeed !
Her back was stripped bald of all feathers, each feather hole was bloody..it must have hurt like hell..and she had been pecked to hamburger!!!
After taking off the sweat shirt...she had many scabs..all gresy from my using a full coating of triple antibiotic 3 X a week to keep her skin soft, otherwise it would have dried & pulled the sutures apart.
She was just ITCHIN' to get in the dust bath.
She has since preened herself free of scabs, and looks excellent!!
I used NO antibiotics in her water or feed, just the Triple antibiotic on her skin.
Poor baby, she is an absolute sweet heart & will jump in my arms if I let her.

 

[hallerlake]

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I actually have a rain suit that I never think to wear. I bought it for hort school. I got it in my head that I wanted to go get the Rhododendron oreotrephes Mom promised me before she died, and nothing was going to stop me. Fortunately, rhodies have small root systems relative to their size. All species plants have a lot of variation. The flowers on Mom's are luminous against the blue leaves.

Owwwwwwwwwww I would love to see a photo!!!!!!!!!

http://www.hirsutum.info/rhododendron/species/detail.php?id=754 Scroll down to R. o. 'Exquisetum' That looks rather like Mom's.

 

[Totalcolour]

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So what did you use to sew her up with? (she sure looks good now). Do you use some kind of stuff to make it not hurt? I'm pretty good at sewing but wouldn't have a clue how to sew up FLESH!

 

[Totalcolour]

Chickens just has lunch while the rain stopped. Raviolis with marinara and cheese. Also some french been soup with cabbage. I've just got to figure out how to cook for TWO, instead of an army.

 

[Chickielady]

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So what did you use to sew her up with? (she sure looks good now). Do you use some kind of stuff to make it not hurt? I'm pretty good at sewing but wouldn't have a clue how to sew up FLESH!

I use sutures, in her case, I think it was a standard 3-0 nylon...could not find any gut at the time.
Gut disolves over time, nylon must be clipped & sutures removed.
I worked a long time in Oral surgery, and had to "close" often for the surgeon and assist as well, and had to remove nylon sutures by myself for returning patients.
In the case of large erupted wisdom teeth removed, gut was used & would slowly disolve.
In alot of instances such as skiier vs tree that produced both facial & lip splits, nylon was often used.
There are alot of needles in the case of sutures, both cutting (sharpened on the sides) and non cutting (just pointy on the end) and come in sizes as they are rounded, inserted with a hemo stat, withdrawn & pulled through where then you would tie a knot, and clip, or do a running type stitch (rare)
Facial stitches were done with very fine almost hair-like nylon sutures, always kept covered in oinment, and removed as soon as possible (within a day or two) to prevent scarring.
I will teach you next time I see you..practice on a naval orange.
The birds have no issues with pain from suturing...and after what she went through..she din't much care and I felt she was sooooooo happy to have been rescued !

 

[Chickielady]

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So what did you use to sew her up with? (she sure looks good now). Do you use some kind of stuff to make it not hurt? I'm pretty good at sewing but wouldn't have a clue how to sew up FLESH!

Here is an easy tutorial

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-begin-subcuticular-intradermal-suture-259841/