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[Rainwolf]

sigh.. anyone have any cheap eggs? I just lost 2 batches of eggs...
1 due to my bumping the incubator and well... crash testing eggs is a bad idea.
2 due to bad shipping/packing 16 broken on arrival and the rest look pretty bad (detached aircells, porous shells etc) they are in the bator but not much hope.
that is 90% of my egg money gone and no chicks to show.

80 eggs, no chicks

 

[Rainwolf]

gonna catch the last daylight to work on greenhouse.. be back in a bit

 

[KMoran]

Where does everyone get their hatching eggs?... other then their own chickens.... ( No Roo here)

 

[Zgoatlady]

Zgoat, did you ever get that Kil-o-Watt? I will be in Enumclaw tomorrow and can loan you mine if you still need it. Let me know!

Thank you for the offer, Im good.

Just another reason in a loooooooooooooooong list of reasons why I encourage you to GROW as much of your own food as you can!







Federal inspectors told to ignore moldy food at local plant
by CHRIS INGALLS / KING 5 News
KING5.com
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 9:45 PM
Updated today at 12:37 PM




The KING 5 Investigators have learned that federal inspectors complained for years about significant food safety violations at a Yakima plant but their superiors didn’t put a stop to it.

"I thought it was terrible because I have never seen anything like that in my life," said Jerry Pierce, a recently retired U.S. Department of Agriculture inspector who was assigned to the Snokist Growers plant in 2008. He said he watched Snokist employees “reprocess” and sell applesauce that belonged in the garbage bin.

“It's appalling that the company would take those measures just to make a few dollars," said Wendy Alguard, the USDA inspector who worked at Snokist from 2009 until the summer of last year.

Snokist Growers is a century-old cannery that processes and packages 50,000 tons of cherries, apples, pears and plums each year. The inspectors say that leaks in the packaging would cause 300 gallon bags of applesauce to spoil. Snokist would scrape thick mold off the top of the spoiled applesauce, heat-treat the remaining product and then send it down the production line for sale to the public.

“I thought it was wrong, my goodness,” said Pierce.

Blowing the whistle

The KING 5 Investigators obtained public records showing Snokist reprocessed more than 23,000 gallons of moldy applesauce in the year 2010 alone. Other records show Snokist's own consultant concluded in 2009 that the mold in applesauce "would not be eliminated by your firm's thermal process." Records show the company continued selling it to customers.

The inspectors say they repeatedly told their boss about the moldy applesauce.

"I guess they promised my boss they wouldn't do it again and within a week they were doing it again,” said Pierce.

"I had contact with my boss many times and he basically told me to mind my own business," said Alguard.

The USDA had inspectors in Snokist’s plant because the company is a major supplier to the national school lunch program. The USDA grades and certifies food deemed acceptable for school lunches. Alguard and Pierce say they did their best to make sure that reprocessed applesauce didn’t get into school lunch food. However, they could not stop it from going to non-government buyers like grocery store chains. Consumers were often buying Snokist product without even knowing it. The company processes and packages fruit for many major brands, which distribute the product to stores under their own labels.

Snokist declined to provide KING 5 with a list of distributors, brands and grocery stores which it supplied with reprocessed applesauce. The USDA and Food and Drug Administration says it does not have records of companies that Snokist supplies.

FDA steps in

It was another government agency that finally put a stop to Snokist’s recycling of fruit products. Last year, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) came to the Yakima plant after 18 North Carolina school children got sick from eating Snokist applesauce. The FDA determined that packaging defects caused the applesauce to spoil, not reprocessing of moldy applesauce.

“I approached (the FDA inspectors) and told them I wanted to talk to them,” said Alguard. Her tip led the FDA to put an immediate stop to the re-processing of applesauce. The FDA investigation is continuing and Snokist lost its school lunch contract with the FDA.

USDA Response

In a written statement to KING 5 News, the US Department of Agriculture’s Agricultural Marketing Service said it had limited authority to stop shipments of non-government food.

"Snokist is regulated by the Food and Drug Administration and is currently under investigation. Thanks to the diligent efforts of Agricultural Marketing Service employees with authority limited to solely grading Snokist products, only products made with wholesome ingredients were allowed to enter the stream of commerce with USDA approval. In 2011 USDA signed an agreement with the Food and Drug Administration that strengthens its oversight and reporting powers that will provide additional authority to stop bad actors in the future. This agreement is part of an ongoing effort by USDA to make unprecedented improvements to food safety."

This just made me sick today, I watched Food inc years ago and still have a hard time.
Can you say I'll be canning lots more this year...

Where does everyone get their hatching eggs?... other then their own chickens.... ( No Roo here)

The people on this thread have lots of different kinds of eggs, also I have them shipped to me.

 

[RustyHen]

No I didn't?? Course again, if it's a west side thing then It probably wouldn't pertain to me, who is Pasado?? I am so sick of bleeding heart idots who don't have a clue about sustainable living giving everything a fricken cruelty to animals label!!!

pettec63 I saw this in the local tri-city Craigslist this fall, I live just south of Hermiston, so I check that one too. If I see it again I'll let you know.

 

[blueducklings]

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYONE!!!

HOPE YOUR DAY IS FILLED WITH EGGS, CANDY, HUGS AND LOVE.
Some of us with more eggs than others.

My fridgerator is bursting in its seems with them blue eggs.
Who would have thought they actually ment it when they said "...keep only enough female ducks as the number of eggs you will eat in a day." LOL
so 2 for me, 2 for my hubby and one for my son. OK that is 7.

 

[blueducklings]

Food Inc is such an eye opener.
I also watched Dr Oz and another program at KCTS 9 and it has changed what I buy at the markets.
So ladies...eat mushrooms everyday and wash it down with limeade, with or without the sugar. ( I prefer lemon grass)
It will keep your legs looking pretty when you live to 101!

 

[blueducklings]

Toni!!
Wonderful meeting you and your 2 girls!! What a nice treat!
Anyone going to MONROE??

 

[pettec63]

Happy Valentines Day to you all!

If you only have one computer in your house then create a gmail to send it to yourself.

Or send it as a gift.

The PRO Version is fantastic!

Quote:

http://www.iobit.com/ld/2012valentine_giveaway/

Hmm I tried to get it and the box just went gray with my info in it and it didn't go any where?? Like it froze??

 

[pettec63]

Just another reason in a loooooooooooooooong list of reasons why I encourage you to GROW as much of your own food as you can!







Federal inspectors told to ignore moldy food at local plant
by CHRIS INGALLS / KING 5 News
KING5.com
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 9:45 PM
Updated today at 12:37 PM




The KING 5 Investigators have learned that federal inspectors complained for years about significant food safety violations at a Yakima plant but their superiors didn’t put a stop to it.

"I thought it was terrible because I have never seen anything like that in my life," said Jerry Pierce, a recently retired U.S. Department of Agriculture inspector who was assigned to the Snokist Growers plant in 2008. He said he watched Snokist employees “reprocess” and sell applesauce that belonged in the garbage bin.

“It's appalling that the company would take those measures just to make a few dollars," said Wendy Alguard, the USDA inspector who worked at Snokist from 2009 until the summer of last year.

Snokist Growers is a century-old cannery that processes and packages 50,000 tons of cherries, apples, pears and plums each year. The inspectors say that leaks in the packaging would cause 300 gallon bags of applesauce to spoil. Snokist would scrape thick mold off the top of the spoiled applesauce, heat-treat the remaining product and then send it down the production line for sale to the public.

“I thought it was wrong, my goodness,” said Pierce.

Blowing the whistle

The KING 5 Investigators obtained public records showing Snokist reprocessed more than 23,000 gallons of moldy applesauce in the year 2010 alone. Other records show Snokist's own consultant concluded in 2009 that the mold in applesauce "would not be eliminated by your firm's thermal process." Records show the company continued selling it to customers.

The inspectors say they repeatedly told their boss about the moldy applesauce.

"I guess they promised my boss they wouldn't do it again and within a week they were doing it again,” said Pierce.

"I had contact with my boss many times and he basically told me to mind my own business," said Alguard.

The USDA had inspectors in Snokist’s plant because the company is a major supplier to the national school lunch program. The USDA grades and certifies food deemed acceptable for school lunches. Alguard and Pierce say they did their best to make sure that reprocessed applesauce didn’t get into school lunch food. However, they could not stop it from going to non-government buyers like grocery store chains. Consumers were often buying Snokist product without even knowing it. The company processes and packages fruit for many major brands, which distribute the product to stores under their own labels.

Snokist declined to provide KING 5 with a list of distributors, brands and grocery stores which it supplied with reprocessed applesauce. The USDA and Food and Drug Administration says it does not have records of companies that Snokist supplies.

FDA steps in

It was another government agency that finally put a stop to Snokist’s recycling of fruit products. Last year, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) came to the Yakima plant after 18 North Carolina school children got sick from eating Snokist applesauce. The FDA determined that packaging defects caused the applesauce to spoil, not reprocessing of moldy applesauce.

“I approached (the FDA inspectors) and told them I wanted to talk to them,” said Alguard. Her tip led the FDA to put an immediate stop to the re-processing of applesauce. The FDA investigation is continuing and Snokist lost its school lunch contract with the FDA.

USDA Response

In a written statement to KING 5 News, the US Department of Agriculture’s Agricultural Marketing Service said it had limited authority to stop shipments of non-government food.

"Snokist is regulated by the Food and Drug Administration and is currently under investigation. Thanks to the diligent efforts of Agricultural Marketing Service employees with authority limited to solely grading Snokist products, only products made with wholesome ingredients were allowed to enter the stream of commerce with USDA approval. In 2011 USDA signed an agreement with the Food and Drug Administration that strengthens its oversight and reporting powers that will provide additional authority to stop bad actors in the future. This agreement is part of an ongoing effort by USDA to make unprecedented improvements to food safety."

Your absolutely right!! That's just goss!! How would the people that work there like to eat themselves!! And how could they sleep at night knowing that stuff is going to kids!! All I can say is!! Applesauce!! ok, (and a few choice words not allowed here!)