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Outdoor-access debate ruffles feathers at organic chicken farms
Battle over chickens and the outdoors has been particularly protracted. The National Organic Standards Board considers the matter at a meeting in Madison, Wis., on Oct. 25.


By Melissa Allison and Amy Martinez

Seattle Times business reporters

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YELM, Thurston County — The choir of clucking from thousands of Rhode Island red chickens inside a Stiebrs Farms hen house creates such a din that it's hard to hear anything else. The chickens follow visitors around, tilting their heads to have a better look.

A few dozen of them amble down ramps onto a grassy lawn, where they peck at the ground and roll in the dirt, an instinctive activity farmers call "dusting."

These are the lucky chickens, the ones certified organic that do not spend their lives in cages.

In fact, these hens are extra lucky because Stiebrs Farms decided that when national organic rules called for "access to the outdoors," that meant big doors and grassy lawns.

Some organic chicken farms do not see it that way, and a fight is brewing over what exactly "access to the outdoors" means when it comes to chickens used for organic eggs and meat.

"There's huge lobbying going on from industrial agriculture trying to force the NOSB (National Organic Standards Board) to get rid of the concept of any outdoor access," said Goldie Caughlan, nutrition-education manager at PCC Natural Markets in Seattle and a former member of that board.

The NOSB, an advisory board of retailers, consumers, producers and others with an interest in organic food, makes recommendations to an arm of the U.S. Department of Agriculture that issues final rules on everything from organic corn to honey to milk.

Rule-making takes years, and the battle over chickens and the outdoors has been particularly protracted. It will reach fever pitch later this month, when the NOSB considers the matter at an Oct. 25 meeting in Madison, Wis.

There are as many opinions about chickens and the outdoors as there are farmers.

Stiebrs — which has 450,000 hens, about 125,000 of them organic — recently added extra doors to a couple organic houses to coax more hens outside.

It's important to consumers and customers like PCC, said Kaisa Kuykendall, granddaughter of Stiebrs Farms' founders and head of sales, marketing and customer relations.

It also creates work for the farm, because workers have to round up the chickens before dark so they are safe from predators. Herding even a few dozen chickens takes time, Kuykendall said.


"You don't just say, 'OK, ladies, we're going inside.' "

It also takes space.

If all 4,700 hens that live in one of Stiebrs' houses congregated outdoors, they would have more space — 1.7 square feet per bird, to be precise, than the 1.2 square feet they have indoors.

Some people do not like that the NOSB is looking into the matter.

Steve Kopperud, a lobbyist whose firm's clients include the National Renderers Association and the Animal Health Institute, wrote at BrownfieldAgNews.com in March that the NOSB should not consider "animal-welfare" standards. He thinks organic should mean only an absence of man-made chemicals.

"Since by federal law no company can make humaneness or safety claims based on production practice, how better to try and play to the Whole Foods crowd than by promoting your 'animal welfare' standards as part of the organic program?" he wrote.

The NOSB seems "totally oblivious to ongoing concerns by conventional producers when it comes to the dedication of the animal-rights movement and others to render all of livestock and poultry production extinct," Kopperud wrote.

James Barton, a veterinarian with the American Association of Avian Pathologists, told the NOSB's livestock committee last fall that raising chickens inside is better for their health.

"Exposure to insects and earthworms can facilitate the transfer of internal and external parasites ... as well as bacterial and viral infections," he said.

Country Hen, a farm in Massachusetts, appealed to federal regulators in the early 2000s, when a certifying agent refused to consider its chicken porches "access to the outdoors." The regulators sided with the farm, and it now sells organic eggs.

Country Hen manager Bob Beauregard told the NOSB last year its proposed animal-welfare rules, including a possible requirement for 3 square feet of outdoor space per bird, "would completely undermine everything that we have built our organic system plan around for the past seven years."

"The land to range the hens properly would not be practical, nor would the hens be safe from natural predators," Beauregard said.

The board's latest documents, to be used for discussion this month, suggest 2 square feet per chicken outdoors.

NOSB members vary in their take on animal welfare.

Board member Jennifer Hall, a foodie from Washington state who's been involved in various restaurant and other food projects, did not attend the group's last meeting, but wrote an e-mail that was read to the group.

"It's still big corporate outfits even in organic that literally pump livestock of all kinds through their systems at unreasonable rates with low oversight or real care for the living animal," she wrote.

"I would very much like to have minimum standards of care for organic livestock that are far superior to conventional, and that make a difference in pain and suffering and the quality of life the animal leads. That would justify a doubling of price, not the fact that organic feed just happens to be so hard to come by and inflates the price of a still potentially miserable existence."

The Cornucopia Institute in Wisconsin released a report on organic egg farms this week that rates dozens of farms, including several in Washington.

It gave Stiebrs Farms in Yelm and Wilcox Farms in Roy each a rating of three eggs out of five. Five eggs went to Trout Lake Abbey in Trout Lake, Klickitat County; Misty Meadows Farm in Everson, Whatcom County; and Skagit River Ranch in Sedro-Woolley. Cornucopia's report is at www.Cornucopia.org.

Oct. 12 is the deadline for public comments.

They can be made online at http://bit.ly/czDAYO.

— Melissa Allison
 
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I don't my breeds very well, but i thought if these were RIR, they looked really scruffy. And I agree, I was wondering why threre was so much grass. I tried to lay a corner, in my run, with some sod....ya...it didn't make it. I gave up.
 
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I agree, unless there is a door on each side of the henhouse, and a yard outside each door, seperated to allow the grass to regrow.
I did that for a while, but I have so many birds now some grass is having a hard time.
For example, as soon as the herd of OEs are grown enough to go to their own yard, the yard they are in (smaller squares in the wire fencing ) and fully netted, is the baby pen, and the grass will be able to regrow, and ready for the next babies.
Great article Greg, Thanks !
 
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Acouple blue wheaten pullets for me I hope !!!
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Illia I think I have finally figured out why I have 2 dark blue Ameraucana roos that are sprouting gold hackle...and they are sprouting shank feathers...ha!
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They have to be OEs snuck inot the Ameraucana pen...we housed all the chicks together, 13 BCM X Blue Am chicks and 8 Purebred Blue Ams...the fun part is in some of the OEs, the black/gold is so prominite...(like Duke)
This is Duke the dominate roo in this flock of OEs:
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But, and this is a big but...there is 2 other smaller less pretty roos that are black, with no gold, and apparently 2 dark blue roos (remember they are half blue ameraucana) with almost black heads and sprouting the gold hackle(and lshanks feathers).
OK, figured that blooper out~~~
and I still see that there is 1 pureblood blue Ameraucana cockeral in there, the 2 with gold will go bye bye, and all will be well~~~'So, I would love 3 or 4 blue wheaten Ameraucana pullets and 1 cockeral from you !
Mystery de-mystified.
Now, I have to deal with the Guineas who have suddenly figured out they can fly up, and land on, the roof...great for the rain water collection, huh ?
 
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I have to get my saw out and fix it, have it ready for winter.
One day a big storm in North Idaho blew a bunch of my trees down, and trying to get to work I ran into one right across my driveway...better have the saw fixed,,
I got the chain too tight and after I shut it off the chain is stuck tight...no biggee, just another item on the list of to-dos....
Speaking of trees, andyone log ?
I have a bunch of trees Bonneville cut down that are laying here...

you should get one of the portable sawmill folks out to cut it all in to lumber for you! some will cut for half the lumber so no money out of pocket..

We are looking...but the guy that came out has been busy and said he would send a portable sawmill guy to come out, but none has.
This is spruce, at least 120-140-plus feet, and at minimum 6-8 feet through the butt, most are limbed and laying here...Impossible for a self loader to load hunks, no saw mill can use them, too big for the grizzly at the pulp mill, and so far no takers with portable saws...I cannot see a portable saw cutting this thing up...how to pick hunks up is the trial~
Cheryl be careful!!!!!!!!!!
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Illia************** I too love a deep snowy winter, it does indeed insulate and keep things warmer.
I do not carefor the windy bone chilling cold, like in the 20s to minus 30...that is too cold.
I lost alot of chickens in minus 20 and 30 weather in Northern Idaho, too cold, trees blow up, your hair can freeze and snap right off...eyeballs almost freeze...noses and fingers and toes suffer...your car will freeze to and stick to, the frozen driveway...give me nice warm snow anyday!!!
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First, those are Sex Links. . . Second, wow. I don't call that outdoor free ranging OR organic. The grass is so short one couldn't get half an inch of a blade. . . And what else is there?! Dirt? Wow. . . . Good luck finding food outside, hens. . .

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Commercial "free ranging" is a joke.


Chickielady - sounds right.
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That's an OE there I see.

As for the hatch, this is just a broody hatching surprise eggs right now. But yes, in a few days I've got both Wheaten/Blue wheaten Ameraucanas and Marans in the bator.
 
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you should get one of the portable sawmill folks out to cut it all in to lumber for you! some will cut for half the lumber so no money out of pocket..

We are looking...but the guy that came out has been busy and said he would send a portable sawmill guy to come out, but none has.
This is spruce, at least 120-140-plus feet, and at minimum 6-8 feet through the butt, most are limbed and laying here...Impossible for a self loader to load hunks, no saw mill can use them, too big for the grizzly at the pulp mill, and so far no takers with portable saws...I cannot see a portable saw cutting this thing up...how to pick hunks up is the trial~
Cheryl be careful!!!!!!!!!!
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Illia************** I too love a deep snowy winter, it does indeed insulate and keep things warmer.
I do not carefor the windy bone chilling cold, like in the 20s to minus 30...that is too cold.
I lost alot of chickens in minus 20 and 30 weather in Northern Idaho, too cold, trees blow up, your hair can freeze and snap right off...eyeballs almost freeze...noses and fingers and toes suffer...your car will freeze to and stick to, the frozen driveway...give me nice warm snow anyday!!! http://bestsmileys.com/cold/13.gif

If they are to large to move then you want the guy with a lucas sawmill... I saw him on CL just a little bit ago. Best thing would be to post on CL a photo and request to split lumber in trade for milling...
Its just what I would do and i'm a goof so no need to listen to me
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Well I do know a couple portable mill guys but they couldn't handle anything that big. There is a steam powered mill close to me who could cut them if he is still alive. But it would mean hauling them to him so that probably won't work. What about an "ALASKA" saw mill ??
 
Holy Smokes!

Haven't been on in awhile and had 30 pages to catch up on!!!

Ok here is my quick input!

1) School bus driver's ROCK!!!! Kids these days are crazy! People who work in the educational field have had all authority and power taken away so disciplining kids is pretty much impossible! Even though we are the ones who are with them more hours a day than parents!! DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!!!
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2) Quit talking about all this scary winter stuff!!! I have to drive a 40 foot bus with precious cargo on those icy/snowy roads!!!! And no they do NOT always cancel school in weather like that. My school district is the crazy one that tried to still have school in 2008 when everyone else shut down. It took many years off all of our lives in stress!!!
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3) My boys!!!!!

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T Hi,
Your awsome! Anyone who can drive a bus around with LOTS of roudy kids, deserves recognition and a big old THANK YOU! Its a profession that not very many people could do. I tried my hand as a T.A. at a motesory school for one school year... I might have stayed on IF the classes weren't SO packed. It wasz insane, and made me realise that I don't have what it takes to deal with 30+ kids...

So thank you for what you do.

On another note! Your boys are quite adorable.
 
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