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[Rainwolf]

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Montesano Farm and Feed has the 50# bag and it is food grade, pure, and sells cheap !

Chickielady if you happen to swing by my way I could really use a 50# bag of food grade DE. let me know!
I can't find it anywhere around here

 

[Chickielady]

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I have never seen that or heard of that and never have seen it written on the package.
Permethrins are natural botanical insecticides, that is all.
It is not made from chemicals, nor is it absorbed into the chicken in significant measure to do any harm.
Not that I have ever seen.
It has been safe for all pourposes as far as I have ever seen.
It is vegetable dust as well.

 

[Chickielady]

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Montesano Farm and Feed has the 50# bag and it is food grade, pure, and sells cheap !

Chickielady if you happen to swing by my way I could really use a 50# bag of food grade DE. let me know!
I can't find it anywhere around here

Maybe can do the afternoon of the 30th....on my way home from Monroe.

 

[Chickielady]

Justbugged, I like it, and RON B:
The amount of vegie/poultry dust used in a 80# sack of sand along with 2 scoops (about 1/2 gallon) of DE mixed, is so insignificant as to cause no harm but repulse the bugs.
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/assets/label_info/16252.htm
The label says 14 days for potatoes though !
It says nothing of eggs.
I never use this as a straight on product anyway, I always dilute it with the sand and DE, and it works.
It is a natural botanical insecticide, and at 25%, and then diluted with the sand and DE it is further diluted.
I use the spray, too, called ECO sense made by Ortho, also permethrins (pyrethrins) made from Chrysanthemums, a favorite flower.
I use this for spraying flies, mosquitos...I do not spray people or critters with this spray, and it is not the most fantastic bug killer...but it is the safest one.
You can get a refill of the condensed product from KMG called Permectrin II a premises and animals spray...active ingredients permethrins...and it is a tiny bottle and makes tons of spray I keep refilling my spray bottles with.
It even worked on caroenter ants although I do not think it killed them as much as made them mad and they left town.
I will look for a link...

OK here is a link and you can click on the manufacturer's label and instructions and read up, I LOVE THIS LITTLE bottle has lastest me all year for bugs, spraying perches and nest boxes during the monthly coop cleanings, flies, the dog house when I clean it...everything.
I even sprayed around the house after ants and bugs, good on earwhigs, and sowbugs eating my flowers...
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=2&mscssid=MQWFJH0VXC9X8PE0CSAC7UNBMQDE1SX5

 

[ultasol]

You know chickielady, I took my camera but my hubby had taken the memory card out to upload pictures to the computer and didn't replace it. I was patting myself on the back for FINALLY remembering the camera, took out my camera to get pictures...and couldn't!!

I did take some pictures with Sheryl Butlers camera, and she'll be sending them to me in a few days or so I'm sure. She is just the sweetest lady, and I've learned so much from her.


Jen- Chehalis is going to be so much fun!! I just have to figure out how to get over the pass in December, but if there is a will there is a way. I think showing is as much a social event as anything else. The kids, oh the youth are so fantastic and I just love them. I have yet to understand how the judges are scoring the silkies, though. So, I took the same birds pretty much to the MT show and to the Stevenson show. Neither bird that got Ch featherleg in MT were even BV here,... the BV and RB pullet was the pullet that placed 4th in MT. The while cockerel that I got BB with in Stevenson was RV in MT. Shows were only two weeks apart, perhaps a different bird was just showing off better that day. I know a couple of the blacks were sleeping when it was close to judging... perhaps that influenced things.

I didn't get to see your butterscotch calls, Jen, but at the risk of my sanity I need to take a peek at Chehalis. I'm so worried about the "oh so CUTE" factor. I took a pair of calls from Dan Jerome for Calesta and sent them to Spokane with Jean. What CUTE little chubby faces! If they weren't capable of flight they would be so much more tempting.

Still nursing my back. Tylenol and heating pads work wonders, and perhaps I'll be able to eek a backrub or two out of my poor, silkie-tolerating, husband. See? A hurt back isn't all bad. Now if I could only get him to wax his chest, make me a margarita, and fan me with palm fronds I'd be all set.... and it's all thanks to showing poultry!

 

[Chicken Rustler]

WHO IS THIS RONB he drops in and posts every few weeks then is gone !!!!!

I have used the premethin (sp) on roosts. After I had used it AND ate the eggs I was told that you shouldn't. I think it just depends on who ya ask. My opinion is I will still use it on roosts if needed cause I have eaten the eggs and

theres nothin wrong wiff mee wiff mee wif mee,

 

[hallerlake]

My DH has done construction and used to be an architect, but he hated both. He wouldn't take over. Darn it.




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Oh well...I have a second coop that's about 1/2 done...I have found the best way to get hubby to finish a project is to have 15+ chirping chicks patiently growing out in one of the spare bedrooms! LOL

Not true !!
The best way to get DH to build a coop is to start building it yourself, get a notepad and start your design and try to figure out the shopping list and ask him if he can help take you to the lumber yard and before long he will take over the whole sheebang !!!

Works for me everytime !!!

 

[RonB]

Chickielady
Thanks for the PM. After I posted my question last night. I remembered I had seen a container of the poultry dust with permethrin (same stuff you have) down in the landlords barn. he had bought it to use on his cows,but never used it. He has since gotten rid of the cows. I know he won't care if I use it.
When I asked about eating the eggs, I got my thoughts mixed up (thats easy for me to do LOL) I was thinking about when you wormed them.

Have you ever tried the poultry protecter (concentrate) on the web site you sent me? It is under poultry, on the second page. I was thinking about maybe trying that.

My chickens can get under the barn where it is dry and thats were they dust themselves. I also have a spot in the coop (in barn) with sand and dirt in it. I will mix up some D.E. and poultry dust and mix it into the dirt in both places.

Chicken Rustler
Hey I come here everyday and read. just don't have much to say I guess. The landlord has been gone for a month and a half so I have been busy keeping up the 12 acres

 

[Chickielady]

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I have not seen the poultry protector...I just grabbed the little bottle of Permetrin II at the feed store in chehalis and loved it.
Since you do not spray the birds with it, and the product is dry when they come in at night to roost, I think it is perfectly fine to spray everything with.
Long waite on the potatoes after you dust but that is due to the fact that taters sponge up eveything as the roots they are, and store it....any root crop would I assume.
Chickens do not sponge up much from their hienies....I do stress keeping the dust bath box dry...and it will make dust so sometimes the whole coop is way dusty and I have to vacuum...
But it is so much easier, cleaner and less stressful than catching, and subdueing on the floor, each chicken and then having DH dust and pat each bird's bottom, wingpits and crotch...do chickens have crotches ???
Well, ya know the area.
**************************AND UPDATE ON THE WELL***************************
It appears since we did not go through the shale layer that at best we will only get a few gallons an hour and that is unacceptible as a family well here in Pac Co.
It must produce 4+ an hour and have to be fitted with a "dry well management system" that senses the well running dry and automatically shut the pump off, requireing a 6+ inch pipe, ours is 4....another mistake.
But DH thought we would just be using the shallow well pump, not a submersible.
Anyway the well pump activates and pumps when the water replenishes, into a tank, and then the shallow well pump comes on and off as needed in the house, and pumps from the tank to a pressure tank, and that shoots the pressurized water into the house.
All well and good but the well managment system, special 2 pump sytem and all is at best another $2K and even after it all it may be unacceptible to the County as too slow...in the rainy season this well may overflow with water (it happened in that area last year) but it is not good now...surface water anyway, SO I talked it over with my Dad and asked him (of the sliced bread fame) what he would do, which way would he go?
And ya know what he said ?
He said he would have had a driller do it in the first place.
It is a basic necessity...gotta have it, so I go with the driller who gave me an earlier quote over the phone at $2500 for 60 feet, and we will not go past 40 I think...but have to pay a 60 minimum, that was the thing that mad us mad, technically they charge an 80 foot minimum, at $35 a foot, and the permits and all, but this guy said he'd even lower it to a 60 minimum, so it all comes out to $2500 or so...I I am going to do it with half the foundation money, but gotta do it.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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Doesn't the kit come which a rock dilling bit?