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[Rainwolf]

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I dunno, sheep's milk is fantastic too and very very hard to find as America does not have many dairy sheep. sheep's butter is like creamy frosting! sweet and very creamy.
I like sheep's milk etc better then goats in general only cuz some goats produce stuff that smells like ermm nasty goat

but I'm sure it has something to to with quality of care/feed.

 

[ultasol]

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'Tis why I never take it.

Really? Seriously?

Ok guys, the flu vaccine is not a live virus. It will not give you the flu. If you are exposed to the flu after getting the vaccine but BEFORE your body has the time to build up antibodies, you can still get sick.

If you give chickens a dead or modified live vaccine, you will not be infecting your flock. If you have questions, ask. Scientific studies have not shown any link between vaccination and autism.

 

[Illia]

We've already had a small debate on vaccines, etc. And I never mentioned autism this time. . .

Chickielady: Raw Goat's Milk is indeed awesome. It is what we drink, use in food, and use to make yogurt, kefir, and cheese around here. Most of the probiotics we use come from Kefir, which I have yet to see cause problems. It in fact depletes the lactose in the milk, making it even safer for the chickens to drink our milk. I've noticed an exceptional rise in egg production, egg strength, health, and growth rate in young chickens from Kefir. After all, it has been a highly prized form of drink for thousands of years.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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I had a Sam also ( her name was Sam). She was a rough Collie and was in my life for 13 year. She came into my life when I was 19. Her and I would cruise for chicks (not the feather chicks) in my Pontiac convertible, go to the drive-in movies, go car hopping at the junk yard and from time to time I would take her to work. People knew Sams name but not mine. Even thou she passed away in 98 like you I still cry for her.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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I told my wife that you and I seem like we have a lot in common. My wife and I want a Monolithic Dome Home underground, she is calling it a hobbit house http://www.monolithic.com/stories/underground-homes-good-or-bad/photos

 

[Chickielady]

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'Tis why I never take it.

Really? Seriously?

Ok guys, the flu vaccine is not a live virus. It will not give you the flu. If you are exposed to the flu after getting the vaccine but BEFORE your body has the time to build up antibodies, you can still get sick.

If you give chickens a dead or modified live vaccine, you will not be infecting your flock. If you have questions, ask. Scientific studies have not shown any link between vaccination and autism.

The "flu shot" is actually weakened virus from several strains of flu that the Center For Disease Control (CDC) THINKS we may get this winter...so they manufacture that group of vaccines, and distribute it.
There is MILLIONS of influenza strains, and if one comes along that you are NOT vaccinated for in your flu shot, you will get sick.
You cannot be vaccinated for every flu strain...there is millions and as typical character of viruses, they can 'morph' and change and every time they do, your body has to immune against it all over again.
Viruses can morph...the strains can change constantly.
That is why they not only stay 'alive', but they can morph and bridge from animal flus to human flus (ZOONOSES)
The flu shot you had last year, maybe the same as this year only the bugs signature has morphed a bit and now looks like a different bug to your immunal system, and you must be immunized against that bug again...hope this helps explain.
There is not just A flu, there are hundreds, and each has alot of strains...the flu you got was probably one that was not in your flu shot.

 

[Chickielady]

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I told my wife that you and I seem like we have a lot in common. My wife and I want a Monolithic Dome Home underground, she is calling it a hobbit house http://www.monolithic.com/stories/underground-homes-good-or-bad/photos

wow, I do not know if I could do 100% underground, it creeps me out...I do like the half buried house, as in a hillside, buried on 3 sides, and the exposed side SW and solid glass to absorb the warm of the sun, and grow veggies, collect heat in mass such as water barrels or rock walls, and a solid slab floor finished in adobe.
Wanna see an awesome house, with the geo-thermal system in the floor, on slab::: You gotta see Monicas place, WOW so beautiful, and no heaters!
No wood stove !
The geothermal system heats liquid that circulates through the slab floor and the house stays comfortable year round.
Maybe we can talk her into posting some photos.

 

[Chickielady]

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I had a Sam also ( her name was Sam). She was a rough Collie and was in my life for 13 year. She came into my life when I was 19. Her and I would cruise for chicks (not the feather chicks) in my Pontiac convertible, go to the drive-in movies, go car hopping at the junk yard and from time to time I would take her to work. People knew Sams name but not mine. Even thou she passed away in 98 like you I still cry for her.

So sad, huh ?
I like my new pup but he has a hard act to follow...and so far (we have had him 8 months now ?) he is DH's dog, not mine.

 

[4cats3kids1hubby2many]

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Really? Seriously?

Ok guys, the flu vaccine is not a live virus. It will not give you the flu. If you are exposed to the flu after getting the vaccine but BEFORE your body has the time to build up antibodies, you can still get sick.

If you give chickens a dead or modified live vaccine, you will not be infecting your flock. If you have questions, ask. Scientific studies have not shown any link between vaccination and autism.

The "flu shot" is actually weakened virus from several strains of flu that the Center For Disease Control (CDC) THINKS we may get this winter...so they manufacture that group of vaccines, and distribute it.
There is MILLIONS of influenza strains, and if one comes along that you are NOT vaccinated for in your flu shot, you will get sick.
You cannot be vaccinated for every flu strain...there is millions and as typical character of viruses, they can 'morph' and change and every time they do, your body has to immune against it all over again.
Viruses can morph...the strains can change constantly.
That is why they not only stay 'alive', but they can morph and bridge from animal flus to human flus (ZOONOSES)
The flu shot you had last year, maybe the same as this year only the bugs signature has morphed a bit and now looks like a different bug to your immunal system, and you must be immunized against that bug again...hope this helps explain.
There is not just A flu, there are hundreds, and each has alot of strains...the flu you got was probably one that was not in your flu shot.

I wanted to remark regarding my back comment on the Flue shot....Mine was said in jest. I am aware of all the information that was pointed out....I worked 15 years in medical records in a local clinic and hospital. It was actually a friend, who is a RN, who had never got a flu shot....she got one....got the flu. Of course it was some other strain or whatever the reason...she just thought it was ironic that the one year she gets the shot...she gets the flu. Again....my comments were all in jest, fun, humor, jolly, sarcasm....etc.

 

[Chickielady]

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It is not the lactose most are allergic or sensitive to, but the casein, or milk protien.
Lactose intolerant just means your body cannot manufacture enough lactase enzyme to digest the amount of milk you are consuming,,and as adults we slow in this production and consequently get gasey as the milk sugars ferment in the gut instead of being digested...so we get gasey, and we are all different.
DH here can drink milk for breakfast, have cheese for lunch, and ice cream for dessert, and has no issue, but I cannot.
My gut does not manufacture hardly any enzymes to break down and digest lactose or the milk protein casein, so I BLOAT the a whale and get so gasey I cannot believe it.
Children usually have little problem digesting milk, they are children and are meant to drink milk...it is as we age that our gut slows or stops manufacturing lactase, or otherwise known as the enzymes needed to digest lactose, which is milk sugar.
As we age, we were not meant to drink milk, we are meant to be weaned as all other mammals are...so our gut production of the enzymes necessary to digest lactose slows or stops, and if we drink over the amount of lactose, we get gasey...and can bloat.
From what Poultry Digest and several other poultry breeders have said, chickens have little enzymes to break down this same protein.
They were not designed to drink milk, they are not mammals.
And so they believe these birds will get diareah if fed dairy products.
I have not seen this article, so do not know if that is true or not.
I give my birds cottage cheese once a week or so...they love it and I have not seen any digestive upset from it.