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Well I should go clean the coop and start moving plants around before things freeze up around here. According to at least three GPS units I am at 752 feet of elevation here in Enumclaw. I have observed that when they call for a 500 foot snow level that I have yet to see snow on the ground here. It does mean that the hills that are a mile east of me will be white, and I will be cold.
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I do think about spring when it will be this temperature, and I will think it's warm again.
 
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Give it 20-30 minutes, the clouds just roled in and took away the sun.
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Still dry though, but the weather service is calling for snow down to 500 feet. I doubt I will see it, as I am a whole whopping 30' above sea level. lol Oh and I am finally up to 39degrees.


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The state is CLOSING McNiele Island state Pen...
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I don't think its wise, but I'm just a sitizen...

Okay that SCARES the sh*t out of me. That is where they have been housing the worst sex offenders in the state. Those are the guys that are never going to be fit for release. Those guys are like anyone one of with a specific preference with what we gender we are willing to sleep with. Their preference is children. Crab Nasties! They can stay locked up, and the key can be thrown away. They can not be fixed, and I am not sure that it is worth trying to bother with trying to fix them. Most of these guys if they get it out of the prison system will harm another child, it is just a matter of time. Okay I am sorry for the rant
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I just now was able to post because, before this, I would just cry to think about. Well, I still cried reading your post. It happen often- in fact, in college I took a women's health & history class, which statistically noted that 1/3 of all pregnancies ended in miscarriage, the majority of those with the woman not even knowing she was pregnant (within the first few weeks).
Scientifically, I am aware that the fetus is lost due to its genetic malformation but it is hard to convince the heart of such things...

We seem to be designed to become attached very quickly when we learn that we are pregnant. As the pregnancy starts to progress we start to have hopes and dreams about what this child will become to each member of the family, and how it will change us. What will that child be like when it starts school for the first day, how will we feel as that child walks a cross a stage and graduates, their wedding day, and the birth of their first child. They died too soon, and so did all the possibilities that they held. These children are still missed, by their families. It is hard when the world around us doesn't value your child, and what it's loss means to you. There are a number of women on the board here that have had so many losses. I don't know of any words that make it better, but we do go on, even with broken hearts.
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I want the 20 children that I know of, that are gone back. I would have wanted to meet them.

It is a hard thing to deal with, and yes we do go on. But it does make some effected as how much more they can take. That question always arises, and yet we still go on.

Yes those lost will forever be missed, yet they also make us hold those that we have even closer, loved stronger, and held dearer. My little girl Chloe is my miracle, my 3% chance, and even when she is being a complete monster, tearing up the house. I still adore my perfect little angel.

I couldn't emagine the caos that 11 children would bring me... I'm a firm believer that things happen for a reason. Though the reasons are not always known.
 
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Give it 20-30 minutes, the clouds just roled in and took away the sun.
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Still dry though, but the weather service is calling for snow down to 500 feet. I doubt I will see it, as I am a whole whopping 30' above sea level. lol Oh and I am finally up to 39degrees.


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The state is CLOSING McNiele Island state Pen...
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I don't think its wise, but I'm just a sitizen...

Okay that SCARES the sh*t out of me. That is where they have been housing the worst sex offenders in the state. Those are the guys that are never going to be fit for release. Those guys are like anyone one of with a specific preference with what we gender we are willing to sleep with. Their preference is children. Crab Nasties! They can stay locked up, and the key can be thrown away. They can not be fixed, and I am not sure that it is worth trying to bother with trying to fix them. Most of these guys if they get it out of the prison system will harm another child, it is just a matter of time. Okay I am sorry for the rant
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, that is one of my hot buttons.
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"The approximately 500 inmates will be scattered among the remaining 11 institutions.

McNeil Island is also home to the state's Special Commitment Center, where sexually violent predators are indefinitely held for treatment after completing their prison sentences. That center is operated by the Department of Social and Health Services, and will remain open, prison spokesman Chad Lewis said.

Costs to operate ferries, barges and fire boats to McNeil Island will shift to DSHS, and service will likely be reduced when the prison closes, the Corrections Department said."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013474553_apwaprisonclosing1stldwritethru.html
 
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Give it 20-30 minutes, the clouds just roled in and took away the sun.
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Still dry though, but the weather service is calling for snow down to 500 feet. I doubt I will see it, as I am a whole whopping 30' above sea level. lol Oh and I am finally up to 39degrees.


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The state is CLOSING McNiele Island state Pen...
duc.gif
I don't think its wise, but I'm just a sitizen...

Okay that SCARES the sh*t out of me. That is where they have been housing the worst sex offenders in the state. Those are the guys that are never going to be fit for release. Those guys are like anyone one of with a specific preference with what we gender we are willing to sleep with. Their preference is children. Crab Nasties! They can stay locked up, and the key can be thrown away. They can not be fixed, and I am not sure that it is worth trying to bother with trying to fix them. Most of these guys if they get it out of the prison system will harm another child, it is just a matter of time. Okay I am sorry for the rant
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, that is one of my hot buttons.
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I completely understand and know EXACTLY what you are saying. I don't know where they are putting all the inmates, but McNiel isn't just for sex offenders... The prison just outside of Abredeen is where my POS Ex husband is... The day he is released is the day I go to the Olympia court house for a protection order, because I KNOW he will come looking for me. This is definately something worth watching, as it will eventually affect everyone. Our state already sends in-mate to Colorado and other states as well "can't remember what ones." We "as tax payers," are paying MORE to house the inmates that are out of state, apposed to what it would cost to keep them here. They send these people out of state because our prisons are FULL! And yet they are shutting yet ANOTHER large facility down...

I think I will do some research, and see what all is going on. Our prison system is an imperfect tool.
 
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Okay that SCARES the sh*t out of me. That is where they have been housing the worst sex offenders in the state. Those are the guys that are never going to be fit for release. Those guys are like anyone one of with a specific preference with what we gender we are willing to sleep with. Their preference is children. Crab Nasties! They can stay locked up, and the key can be thrown away. They can not be fixed, and I am not sure that it is worth trying to bother with trying to fix them. Most of these guys if they get it out of the prison system will harm another child, it is just a matter of time. Okay I am sorry for the rant
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, that is one of my hot buttons.
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"The approximately 500 inmates will be scattered among the remaining 11 institutions.

McNeil Island is also home to the state's Special Commitment Center, where sexually violent predators are indefinitely held for treatment after completing their prison sentences. That center is operated by the Department of Social and Health Services, and will remain open, prison spokesman Chad Lewis said.

Costs to operate ferries, barges and fire boats to McNeil Island will shift to DSHS, and service will likely be reduced when the prison closes, the Corrections Department said."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013474553_apwaprisonclosing1stldwritethru.html

Thanks for posting this.
 
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My daughter is at WSU, in Olympia on the 4th floor. She was awakened around 1:30 AM by that thunder and lightening storm as well and said it was the biggest she'd ever seen. She told me about the wind damage near her dorm. It amazes me that we were all battling the elements at the same time all across the state. I know she was walking home around 11 PM which ticked me off when she said it was storming so bad - I had already texted her to GET HOME AND IN YOUR BUILDING, but I don't have a lot of control when I'm 5 hours away...

That is an akward helpless frustration isn't it ?
I have had it several times when my daughter tells me she was hicking up by Snoqualmie Falls and had no athsma med and had an attack so bad she lay in the snow for a while before friends found her and she was laughing...that scared the heck outta me.
Giving me so much gray hair!!!
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Oh! I don't think there would be enough hair dye for me to recover from a situation like yours (and your daughters). Right now I'm dealing with checking DOT every couple of hours so I can feel certain her drive home over Snoqualmie will be safe tomorrow afternoon. Once home, she's leaving her car here for the winter, but I just need her back safe this week! I'll be so relieved by this time tomorrow when she's back in arm's reach. Darn kids.
 
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My daughter is at WSU, in Olympia on the 4th floor. She was awakened around 1:30 AM by that thunder and lightening storm as well and said it was the biggest she'd ever seen. She told me about the wind damage near her dorm. It amazes me that we were all battling the elements at the same time all across the state. I know she was walking home around 11 PM which ticked me off when she said it was storming so bad - I had already texted her to GET HOME AND IN YOUR BUILDING, but I don't have a lot of control when I'm 5 hours away...

wow, thats cool. i am just down the street from her in Rogers Hall. Is she a chicken person? my friends and family are tired of me asking how are my chickens doing, how are the chicks?
what grade is she? what major?
small world isn't it?

She's not a chicken person YET, although we do have one blackstar hen that lives with some friends of ours. We talked them into letting us "own" one of the hens when they built their city coop. We plan to build our own coop and get our girls in the spring, and my daughter is fully supportive of the plan. She and I have fostered for the Humane Society the past couple of years, (currently fostering 2 kittens myself) in addition to the 2 cats, 2 dogs and 3 cockatiels we already have. She is a freshman and she's majoring in Hospitality Business Management, but she plans to save the world in her spare time. And yes, it IS a small world isnt' it? Who knows, one day maybe you'll get together and talk about your chickens...
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Just FYI, I lost power back in May for either 2-3 days (can't remember for sure which now) when the big windstorm blew thru here. I had eggs hatching at the time, week old chicks in a brooder in the house, and two week old chicks out in the pumphouse. I had also just put in more eggs two days prior to the power going out. Those eggs sat in the incubator right around 55 degrees or so for at least two full days and they all ultimately hatched. I can't remember now if they hatched on time or were late (note to self: make note next time!) but they did all hatch.

So if this happens to any of y'all, I wouldn't toss the eggs right away. Give them some time and see what happens. Also, you might want to try throwing a sleeping bag or some other kind of insulation over your incubator if the power goes out. I didn't think of that until afterwards either.

I lost power Monday and didn't get it back until late last night. Thankfully I had no eggs in the 'bator yet.

God Bless,

Seems like there should be an "egg snuggie" or something for a situation like that.
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I completely understand and know EXACTLY what you are saying. I don't know where they are putting all the inmates, but McNiel isn't just for sex offenders... The prison just outside of Abredeen is where my POS Ex husband is... The day he is released is the day I go to the Olympia court house for a protection order, because I KNOW he will come looking for me. This is definately something worth watching, as it will eventually affect everyone. Our state already sends in-mate to Colorado and other states as well "can't remember what ones." We "as tax payers," are paying MORE to house the inmates that are out of state, apposed to what it would cost to keep them here. They send these people out of state because our prisons are FULL! And yet they are shutting yet ANOTHER large facility down...

I think I will do some research, and see what all is going on. Our prison system is an imperfect tool.

I know, for a fact, that they also send sex offenders to Texas. My DH are keeping an eye on one...our family is one of his victims. He was....and I say WAS...a family friend, whom we trusted. At bbqs, bday parties, etc. He had a 1-time shot at my daughter....he planned it out, and took advantage of the situation. He is a bullet stop to me and we told the FBI agent that. I told the FBI agent he would probably come looking for me if this guy ended up dead...Mr. FBI told me that I would be on a long list...that there were others too, that would kill this man on sight if he ever came back to this town. It is sure hard to trust people when this kind of thing happens so close to home and with someone you trusted. He assaulted his very own daughter since she was 8, she was 13 when it was discovered. That girl is now living with her mother and she (the dd) is a screwed up mess. Again, my opinion, a .22 shell is cheap....or a thing of rope. You can get on line and follow these guys if you know the pen they are at. Is McNiele island a Federal pen? This guy here had to face federal charges for putting pictures on the internet - he sent the photos to the Netherlands and then someone there disbursed them over the internet. So, our guy had Federal charges and State charges to face. He got 25 years Fed charges and (I think) 25 State charges to be served one after the other (not simultaneous)...so he has 50 years in prison.

I apologize as it is not Godly to speak this way of someone....but it is a hard pill to swallow, especially when I am such an overprotective psycho mom...and I let this MONSTER get into our family. They work the family any more....not just the kid.
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Well this is my soap box (this and spaying/neutering dogs and cats - maybe should do some people too). This is making me depressed.

Love to all.

Those of you who have lost children from a miscarriage....my heart goes out to you...I too have had this awful experience multiple times. God Bless.

I understand the way you feel, though I may have never felt it. My ex-husband was arested and charged with 8 felonies. Drug charges, gun charges, and sexual assault charges. And it was his 13 year old NIECE and her two best friends. When I found out, I carried a huge burden of guilt with me for a while. His friends blamed it on me leaving him, as this all happened right after I walked out. But I thought long and hard, and came to the conclusion, that he is just an evil man. If I had stayed I highly doubt that I would be alive today, as the final straw pulled before I left, was a loaded SKS held to my temple. I appologised to his father, told him I would be leaving in the morning, and packed my rifle and enough clothing to fill a backpack. Had nowhere to go, and survived the streets of Seattle until I was able to find a place to live...

I no longer carry any guilt over what he did, as I had nothing to do with it. I made amends with his niece, who I love dearly to this day. Told her of my grief for her, and the guilt I felt. She cried gave me a hug, and told me not to feel that way. She has turned out to be a gorgeous young woman, and has moved on.
 
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