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[Cloverleaf Farm]

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Thanks for the update Rob. We'll be thinking about her. And please let us know if YOU need anything!!!

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

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Drppers are rubber, too.
And cost more.
In the Jeffers on line catalog, they sell syringes CHEAP.
You only need 1 for dropping wormer on birds as there is no cross contamination really like injecting, and I think I got individually wrapped 50, for a few bucks.
Will last me my lifetime if I live to be 100.

Yes, but you don't fill up the dropper so that it touches the rubber bulb part. I only draw up enough to use for each bird. The little droppers you can get from your vet (if they have extras laying around) are really small, and only hold 1cc at a time, and are marked with 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 cc marks. Plus, even if the Eprinex got on the rubber bulb, it doesn't affect your ability to use the dropper, whereas when the Eprinex eats at the rubber on the plunger of a syringe, it affects your ability to depress the plunger - you have to press REALLY hard, and then it all shoots out at once - WAY too easy to overdo it that way...

BUT if you could find o-ring syringes, it would take care of that problem.

Dropper is a good idea. I noticed with the syringe that even a new one had trouble plunging the last few cc's of eprinex

 

[Stumpfarmer]

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Good idea- I think properly marked droppers are also in the baby department at the grocery/drug store.

Drppers are rubber, too.
And cost more.
In the Jeffers on line catalog, they sell syringes CHEAP.
You only need 1 for dropping wormer on birds as there is no cross contamination really like injecting, and I think I got individually wrapped 50, for a few bucks.
Will last me my lifetime if I live to be 100.

Oh, yeah, syringes and needles are about the cheapest thing in the world; I tend to have a few used ones around for shooting oil into tight places in my power tools, or diluted glue into loose chair legs.

Getting stuff from a 1.5 liter backpack bottle into a syringe is where we're having to do a little thinking, today.

If what is going on in my head could reasonably be called thinking.

Which: probably not. I call it sleep-talking myself.

 

[Stumpfarmer]

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wow, how fast does it eat syringe rubber ?
I have never had the problem.
Most solvent type chemicals take weeks to dissolve rubber.
If it (Eprinex) is that caustic, does it harm skin ?

I am also not sure if Jeffers carries O-ring syringes.
All the boxes of O-rings that we have are all rubber.
DH has a big box with about 30 various sizes & thicknesses of O-rings, all are rubber.
Alot of people are allergic to nylon, so it has been my experience that nylon is never used in syringes.
Jeffers probably carries the droppers though, I have never looked...

As soon as I put it in there it affects my ability to depress the plunger somewhat, BUT I have NEVER had a site reaction to it, and I've also had it all over my hands (spilled big time once) and my hands are pretty sensitive. I've never SEEN any damage to the plungers, but it just somehow affects how the plunger depresses....??

It makes them sticky; I think it's in an alcohol base, if memory serves, which it probably doesn't so don't take my word for it until I've had a little more sleep.

 

[broodytood]

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Not that I'm an expert or anything but I'll tell ya what I do and what I've been told to do by other BYCers.
I hold them upside down by the legs till they go limp. I let all the other birds get close and personal so that they feel real humiliated. Depending on the bird this works at least for a while. I had a bantie that would not even get up and eat for hours after I did it to him. I know I did not hurt him physically, but I must have really hurt his ego. He pouted for hours!
My BIL used to grab big birds around the neck till they passed out. Then he would just lay them on the ground and wait for them to come to. After they came to, they would crow like they were going through puberty for a few minutes. He raised/showed/bred birds for yeas and swore by that method.
Then there's always freezer camp. Our 5 yr old DD was chased and treed by a big RIR roo. He could have really hurt her so I packed his bag and he caught the first bus!
Hope this helps!

 

[Stumpfarmer]

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Not that I'm an expert or anything but I'll tell ya what I do and what I've been told to do by other BYCers.
I hold them upside down by the legs till they go limp. I let all the other birds get close and personal so that they feel real humiliated. Depending on the bird this works at least for a while. I had a bantie that would not even get up and eat for hours after I did it to him. I know I did not hurt him physically, but I must have really hurt his ego. He pouted for hours!
My BIL used to grab big birds around the neck till they passed out. He raised/showed/bred birds for yeas and swore by that method.
Then there's always freezer camp. Our 5 yr old DD was chased and treed by a big RIR roo. He could have really hurt her so I packed his bag and he caught the first bus!
Hope this helps!

I have scars on my right thigh where a big RIR drew blood through heavy work jeans; it was 100% my fault, I'd forgotten he was there and walked right through the flock on a fast walk, my head down, thinking of something else entirely. He ended up feeding the Falconer's birds a little ahead of schedule, anyway: either I made him jumpy, or he'd just reached the point where he was going to start being aggressive.

 

[pettec63]

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huh ?

Back a few pages, I had some pics of my new babies and there's one little guy that keeps peck at me and I'll pick him up and hold him and put back down and he does it again, now mind you these are mixed cockerels that are meant for meat, but, It just surprised me that at about 5 weeks, they display such an attitude!!

 

[pettec63]

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Not that I'm an expert or anything but I'll tell ya what I do and what I've been told to do by other BYCers.
I hold them upside down by the legs till they go limp. I let all the other birds get close and personal so that they feel real humiliated. Depending on the bird this works at least for a while. I had a bantie that would not even get up and eat for hours after I did it to him. I know I did not hurt him physically, but I must have really hurt his ego. He pouted for hours!
My BIL used to grab big birds around the neck till they passed out. Then he would just lay them on the ground and wait for them to come to. After they came to, they would crow like they were going through puberty for a few minutes. He raised/showed/bred birds for yeas and swore by that method.
Then there's always freezer camp. Our 5 yr old DD was chased and treed by a big RIR roo. He could have really hurt her so I packed his bag and he caught the first bus!
Hope this helps!

OK! yea, he's headed for freezer camp anyway, that's why we bought them, I just was surprised at his behavior this young! I know about RIR we had a big rooster when I was a kid and he did that to my sister! Backed her in the corner of the barn acouple times! My dad got rid of him pronto, guess that's why I have a bad taste in my mouth for them! my impression is they aren't nice birds??

 

[broodytood]

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Not that I'm an expert or anything but I'll tell ya what I do and what I've been told to do by other BYCers.
I hold them upside down by the legs till they go limp. I let all the other birds get close and personal so that they feel real humiliated. Depending on the bird this works at least for a while. I had a bantie that would not even get up and eat for hours after I did it to him. I know I did not hurt him physically, but I must have really hurt his ego. He pouted for hours!
My BIL used to grab big birds around the neck till they passed out. He raised/showed/bred birds for yeas and swore by that method.
Then there's always freezer camp. Our 5 yr old DD was chased and treed by a big RIR roo. He could have really hurt her so I packed his bag and he caught the first bus!
Hope this helps!

I have scars on my right thigh where a big RIR drew blood through heavy work jeans; it was 100% my fault, I'd forgotten he was there and walked right through the flock on a fast walk, my head down, thinking of something else entirely. He ended up feeding the Falconer's birds a little ahead of schedule, anyway: either I made him jumpy, or he'd just reached the point where he was going to start being aggressive.

I have heard since that RIRs are one of the more aggressive roos. My poor kid froze in the yard which made him stop chasin her which gave me time to clock him with a rake. Not gonna put up with mean roos any more. It's cheap to enroll them for camp

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[pettec63]

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Not that I'm an expert or anything but I'll tell ya what I do and what I've been told to do by other BYCers.
I hold them upside down by the legs till they go limp. I let all the other birds get close and personal so that they feel real humiliated. Depending on the bird this works at least for a while. I had a bantie that would not even get up and eat for hours after I did it to him. I know I did not hurt him physically, but I must have really hurt his ego. He pouted for hours!
My BIL used to grab big birds around the neck till they passed out. He raised/showed/bred birds for yeas and swore by that method.
Then there's always freezer camp. Our 5 yr old DD was chased and treed by a big RIR roo. He could have really hurt her so I packed his bag and he caught the first bus!
Hope this helps!

I have scars on my right thigh where a big RIR drew blood through heavy work jeans; it was 100% my fault, I'd forgotten he was there and walked right through the flock on a fast walk, my head down, thinking of something else entirely. He ended up feeding the Falconer's birds a little ahead of schedule, anyway: either I made him jumpy, or he'd just reached the point where he was going to start being aggressive.

I may try that, I just don't know how much handling to do when they are going to be roast chicken;!! lol