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I went 2 weeks ago and sold 9 roos. Got to visit with Diane/Bolddogkennel! was there 3-4 hours!
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Ugh. DH is being very difficult about this. This morning, I mentioned where I want the coop to go, and he argued with me about my "ridiculous obsession". He provided multiple arguments against it (city ordinances, which are changing, poop where the kids play, lease agreements) - and the potential lease break is the only thing that's a problem, IMO. I can't decide if I want to talk with the landlord or not. I'm the naughty kid who would rather act first and deal with potential consequences rather than ask and get an answer I don't like. LOL. I figure if the chickens don't free range much (which of course I'd prefer to let them do), there really isn't much mess or damage, so why should the landlord care or need to know? Bad, bad...
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okay !!!
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another minty green egg today, still warm when I checked the nest box -- that makes 3 in 5 days

based on comb development (the roo's is astounding) and the way the little roo behaves, I think it is Dierdre who is laying

Christina and Phoebe may be ready reallllll soon; possibly Becky too

Anitra and Ginger, may be a little longer (they both have very small paler pink pea combs)

but who knows, with chickens, especially EEs ??

they are 19 weeks ... almost 20 ... which I hear is about right for hatchery EEs to start laying

that roo may have to go, though -- the neighbors don't mind him, but DS mentioned yesterday that the roo wakes him up, crowing in the middle of the night (the coop is 20 feet or so from his windows, and he sleeps with them open year round)

depends on whether DS will have to spend some time in the lockup -- he is negotiating for work release

darned kid didn't tell us he couldn't afford insurance on his car, after the DUI last year, and he got caught without, which meant he busted parole ....
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kid !!! he is middle aged .....
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When I rented an apartment and got a cat, I did not tell the landlord because the lease agreement had a $250 non-refundable pet deposit. I'm sorry, but if it is Non-refundable, it is NOT a deposit, it is a fee or a punishment fine. They never knew I had a pet They charged me $150 because the old, nasty blue carpet was matted and a lightly stained by the front door. Having the carpets cleaned was not part of the agreement, in fact, they told me if I stayed longer than a year, they would clean my carpets annually as in incentive. They never did.

Later I became a landlord. I did not charge extra for pets, and I only once had to deduct a fee because someones puppy chewed the carpet. The tennants with pets have all been great, much better than the ones without. The people with the puppy replaced a section of the lawn where the pee burned it; I di not ask them to do that, and I saw it before it was replaced. It was not even bad. I think what matters is if you take good care of the place. If you keep your ard tidy and the weeds under control, I doubt your landlord would mind the chickens.
 
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being a landlord myself, and also being an animal lover.. I let my tenants have pets.. only one dog totally destroyed some flower beds. I would want to know.. it IS my property and I wouldn't want someone putting up a coop that would be hard to take down, or detract from the yard. Not saying that's what you'll be doing, but just saying from a property owners perspective. I am being royally screwed right now by some lousy tenants and they are being evicted. They have a dog which I didn't/wasn't told about, and I am upset about that, but wouldn't have been had I been TOLD about it... you know? anyway. So my Need To Know may be coming from a slightly skewed perspective at the moment! I say if you have a cool landlord, talk to them, they probably won't mind once they know you aren't going to be doing something weird. Also, chicken poo is easy to either wash into the ground with a hose or rake it around.. that's what I do in the main chicken yard, and it has stayed relatively green and clean, I walk barefoot through it all the time.
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Sometimes there is even a place to sit on the grass if you're careful! lol! If you have kids and they are interested in the chickens, it's an excellent opportunity to help them learn about taking care of another living thing, and a little about life and where food comes from to an extent.
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Something I think ALL kids should know!


~~CR and Broody~~
thanks for the info--think I am going to take my two extra cochin cockerels and some calls down there next weekend.. Broody, did you auction your roo's or did you sell them?? TIA!
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Today is the Grand High Summer Retail Holy Day, ortherwise known as the Panorama City Patio Sale. This year was weird because I screwed up my assorted left-side owies and I had to use the walker, onlly the basket is broken and so everything was precariously balanced on the seat. Also they moved the tools from the first tent to the last one, which got me all out of sequence. The more closely my age approaches that of the people whose household leavings make up the material being sold the harder it is to find anything I haven't thrown out all ready, but I did get a nice preWW2 butcher's cleaver, a trifle dish, and a wide assortment of random fasteners including more lag bolts than usual.

It was also weird because I woke up to a downpour at 5:30am and fell back to sleep dreaming of escaped chickens, including Ian flying all the way into the very tops of the oak trees (seventy-five feet tall, seventy five feet away, ten+ pound Wyandotte? I don't think so), which was no more believable than his suddenly growing a big Leghorn style single comb. I have to clean out ALL the chicken feed pans today, since it rained so hard that water splashing in from the outside turned whatever feed was sitting around into mush.
 
This house is a new rental. The husband died suddenly, and the wife decided to go back to school in eastern WA. She may have had family there. But I got the feeling that she might come back and live here eventually. About a month ago, I asked if it would be okay to build a sandbox, which would be a fair amount of hassle to remove. The homeowner (not who we pay - there's a local property manager) was initially reluctant based on whether or not we intended to extend our lease. When we said we did, she was fine with it. It's hard to say how she'd feel about chickens/coop, since I barely know her. She seemed pleased to have a family with kids and pets here. I believe she had cats (and teenagers).
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