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[Cloverleaf Farm]

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Two for two....and since they were / are my best pair of blue salmon bantam Faverolles, that's enough of a loss for me to stop giving it...

These two phenomenal specimens are sterile as a bucket of bleach....

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beautiful birds, sorry they arent reproducing for you, I will keep an eye on this one and see if she ever has any problems but I am going to say she wont. baytril has been used in many breeding animals and thats the first I have ever heard it blamed for sterility. but I am no vet so will just have to play it by ear.

I agree, I'm a vet tech, and use it all the time. Different drugs do different things to different species. There are no Baytril studies in chickens, but we use it because it works. Just throwing my own personal experience out there as a warning...

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

Has anyone seen this?

NAIS (the National Animal Identification System)
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/stop_new_animal_ID/?akid=422.148841.14kzJQ&rd=1&t=9

 

[4cats3kids1hubby2many]

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I love the layers looking at the new guys pic , they are looking at each other and you can just tell they are gossiping about the new neighbors!

those are nice coops, and yep your door was not big enough lol. Quincy looks pretty happy, got a couple of ladies and no little runt to whoop his butt!!

I think he is happy. he is getting treats....DH sat and gave them some bread the other day. Yesterday I messed up on some scrambled eggs...so they got them. I have been throwing corn out for them since it is so cold. On of the BR (I think it is a he/she) tried to pick a fight with Quincy through the fence...I finally had to boot her away from the fence. I really felt like letting Him out to thump her. I have not been here during the day and when I get home the seramas have already gone back in the coop. I am not sure what Quincy is thinking of our "runt"....LOL. As soon as they get totally settled in they will be let loose to free range a couple of days a week. Our yard is totally fenced. Thank you again for him. I love him.

 

[jbear]

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Two for two....and since they were / are my best pair of blue salmon bantam Faverolles, that's enough of a loss for me to stop giving it...

These two phenomenal specimens are sterile as a bucket of bleach....

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_comerroo1_2.jpghttps://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_hattrickhen1_2.jpg

beautiful birds, sorry they arent reproducing for you, I will keep an eye on this one and see if she ever has any problems but I am going to say she wont. baytril has been used in many breeding animals and thats the first I have ever heard it blamed for sterility. but I am no vet so will just have to play it by ear.

Im waiting for Cindy to step in here too.. wonder if she has seen anything like this?? I do not believe I have--Romeo--Voltron's dad, has had it. It was before Voltron's batch of eggs. Sooo.... ??? I am extremely curious about this. Everything in chickens is off label primarily, and am always learning. No, wait.. When I had Voltron II in for his necropsy and I was talking to Dr. Crespo, I had mentioned that I had used Baytril on him, she didn't say anything about it causing problems. I had said something else I had used and she said to decrease the dose..so i am sure she would have said something about sterility.

weird thing though Cloverleaf...

 

[jbear]

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yes...
Do not agree.. Small farmers do not agree.

 

[cmsdvm]

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how many times has that happened to a bird you gave baytril too?

Two for two....and since they were / are my best pair of blue salmon bantam Faverolles, that's enough of a loss for me to stop giving it...

These two phenomenal specimens are sterile as a bucket of bleach....

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_comerroo1_2.jpghttps://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_hattrickhen1_2.jpg

Bad luck but that's all it was- probably linked to heredity versus medication. For your 2 for 2 I'm probably 150:150- have used it at one point on my entire flock when I was working on a Mycoplasma scare and also on many many client birds. I still have excellent fertility- though, if you want to blame the Baytril, or the power lines, or Congress, for the fact that I still hatch too many boys, I'm game....

 

[cmsdvm]

On a side note: one of the things we most commonly resort to treating with strong drugs like Baytril would be an egg peritonitis- in this case the oviduct is damaged or scarred and the bird does certainly become fertile- but it's not from the drug.

 

[cmsdvm]

One additional thought- people on the Serama Forum are fond of blaming Frontline for their fertility problems- another drug that many of us use regularly with good effect. What I find with my seramas is that I can hatch every egg from the crummy multi-colored poor type specimens but very few indeed from the white typey birds. This is mirrored all over. Why? Because these lovely birds with the characteristics we're looking for are more tightly inbred than the closest population in Arkansas can imagine (a jibe at Mom's home state...) With inbreeding comes lovely type and poor vitality and fertility. I would wonder if that's the problem with your lovely faverolles too.

 

[RedReiner]

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Two for two....and since they were / are my best pair of blue salmon bantam Faverolles, that's enough of a loss for me to stop giving it...

These two phenomenal specimens are sterile as a bucket of bleach....

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_comerroo1_2.jpghttps://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/15879_hattrickhen1_2.jpg

Bad luck but that's all it was- probably linked to heredity versus medication. For your 2 for 2 I'm probably 150:150- have used it at one point on my entire flock when I was working on a Mycoplasma scare and also on many many client birds. I still have excellent fertility- though, if you want to blame the Baytril, or the power lines, or Congress, for the fact that I still hatch too many boys, I'm game....

Thanks Cindy for your thoughts, and its the fault of congress... I just know it!!

 

[RedReiner]

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I believe that to be true also. and of course the non quality bird can reproduce like mad! ha!