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[Ogress]

No problem, I get it. People who have never experienced depression have no idea. I run into the same problem with people who have never raised a child with a disability. They judge but HAVE NO IDEA. Again, you cannot judge someone unless you have live their life. It APPEARS he knew everything he was doing but who are we to judge? We don't know the rationalization that was going on in his head. He probably would have been convicted and the kids still alive if we left them all alone.

CGG - I agree. I think the media circus and hype surrounding the case had driven him over the edge. The latest ruling, his life, his every move was scrutinized, publicized, and publically judged. It is no surprise that his neighbors did not know he was there. There will always be suspicion. No matter what the truth was about his wife, even on the slim and now much slimmer chance he was innocent, how could he go look for a job, enroll the kids in school, or anything else? I'm sure he felt it was him against the world. I think he realised as well, that those boys would never have a normal life. Had their been no media circus, I believe little boys would still be alive. I pre-judge too; and I hate that I do it. I just wish we had all let the law do its job without the pressure from the media. If we had, perhaps he would have been sitting in a jail cell somewhere now, and his kids would have been out playing at their school playground in thebeautiful sunshine we had this morning.

I don't know how or why some stories are picked up on and known all over the country while others crimes of the same calibur are ignored by the media. About 15 years ago, at the same time that woman drove her van into a lake drowning her 2 children on the other side of the country, there was a similar crime that happened right here in King County. A man strapped his 2 children into his car, then sat in the front seat and ran the engine with the garage door closed until he killed his kids and nearly killed himself. I only knew of it because one of my co-workers was the uncle of those 2 beautiful children. Their funeral was the saddest thing I ever witnessed. I'm sure the news this week is opening the wounds of that family, and they are in my thoughts.

 

[Totalcolour]

My Dear CR, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feeling, most certainly not yours. You have been one of the most supportive people on this thread in the recent bad weather times. I'm simply stating a point of view, shared by some, not by others.

If I have hurt anyone, I most sincerely apologize - I have simply been expressing an opinion, as all of us here do from time to time. If anyone has misunderstood any of my posts, and see them as "PERSONAL ATTACKS", please let me know. If I am at fault I will apologize, if it was a misunderstanding, we shall clear it up.

As I said above, we all have the right to think differently from each other, and it's good that we do, otherwise what a boring place earth would be. Plus, by thinking differently, and exchanging ideas, we all may learn from each other. Sometimes not.

I like you CR, I just don't always agree with you!

 

[Ogress]

So, allmost all my pens nets are OFF, and in the back pen for started birds, the buck babies would NOT GO OUT !
So I noticed & went to look & saw feathers & this bird...uneaten.........
What is this bird ?
All my books are in storage~~~~~

I think I know but want to see what ya'll say~~~~~~~
Oriel ? A sapsucker...... this was a nectar feeding bird~~~~~

Varied Thrush - I get lots of them in my yard, but they are fat like robbins and forage in much the same way.
Cool Call: http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Varied_Thrush/id/ac

 

[Ogress]

Today is my day off - I went and got my hair cut and the roots colored to hide the grey. DS just got home from school, and he paid me a compliment, but then he did not shut his mouth in time.

"Mom, I like your hair, now the only part of you that looks old is your skin."

Good grief, I almost back-handed that boy! But I can't risk another day like yesterday. I should have just stayed in bed. I discovered DD had lied about her homework, so I made her do it before school, and then drove her in late and would not sign the parental excuse log so she will have to deal with whatever punishment they hand out to kids that are 30 minutes late to school. Well, that made my 40 minutes late to work. Iuckily I had no one scheduled till 10.

A short time later, before my client showed, I was called by the school vice principal that I needed to pick up Alex as he was being suspended for pounding a kid who'se been teasing him. He also wanted a meeting with me. I found someone to take care of my clients and then went to the school. The VP said the boys torment Alex nearly every day because they get a kick out of him getting angry.The two boys are also special needs, though not autistic, more like neglected. Alex had enough of it, his fuse has been really short since I have been working late. He whopped one of the kids on the head. Our homework assignment was to write a page on phsiological responses he feels before he explodes.

Raced backt to work for my 1:30 who was a no-show. Nearly cried over the awful bind another client was in. Got an angry call from the father of a married teen whose father had wanted to claim her, and waited until 9:30 for my 9pm; another no-show.

I should have just slept through the day.

 

[Totalcolour]

Quote: Aren't they precious!


Quote: After a day like yours, I would be tempted too. I'm sorry you had such a bad time. My sister is a tax specialist (she goes in front of the IRS when citizens are behind for several years - sounds stressful, like yours)

Good thing though, it's only for part of the year.

Hope you get everything sorted out with the kids and school. It's hard being an adolescent.

Hang in there

 

[Greg Richardson]

I'm surprised some of you haven't mentioned this.
That scumbag Josh Powell was ordered to go get a psychco sexual evaluation by the court.
They found some things I'm sure will come out later on his computer which allowed the court the ability to use this tactic.
That was a legal tool used in order to get him to do a lie detector test.
That test he has no rights to what they ask so they of course was going to ask about his wife.
End of story for him legally his time was up he knew he'd be busted.
He also knew his kids were beginning to talk.
You put those two items together and the scumbag knew the gig was up.

 

[Ogress]

I'm surprised some of you haven't mentioned this.
That scumbag Josh Powell was ordered to go get a psychco sexual evaluation by the court.
They found some things I'm sure will come out later on his computer which allowed the court the ability to use this tactic.
That was a legal tool used in order to get him to do a lie detector test.
That test he has no rights to what they ask so they of course was going to ask about his wife.
End of story for him legally his time was up he knew he'd be busted.
He also knew his kids were beginning to talk.
You put those two items together and the scumbag knew the gig was up.

That explains the suicide, but that's no reason to kill his beautiful children. There had to have been something else going on to make him want to kill both his boys and have them go out with him, otherwise it would not have mattered what the boys said once he's dead. Perhaps without such media exposure those kids would still be alive today. I can't imagine that the state would allow in-home visitation if what was found on Josh's computer was that bad.

 

[Totalcolour]

Quote:
There had to have been something else going on to make him want to kill both his boys and have them go out with him, otherwise it would not have mattered what the boys said once he's dead. Perhaps without such media exposure those kids would still be alive today. I can't imagine that the state would allow in-home visitation if what was found on Josh's computer was that bad.

Some people have mental disorders, and we can't explain what goes on inside their heads. It may not have made any difference, the media attention. It may have been the boys beginning to remember and talk. We don't know, and never will.

At this point, speculation is useless. One thing we do know, he KNEW it was wrong, because he sent an email to his attorney just moments before the explosion, saying he was sorry. You don't say you are sorry if you don't think you are doing anything wrong.

Of course, we don't even know what he's sorry about, killing himself, his children, his wife, (or simply sorry for not getting away with it) - but he did SOMETHING wrong.

 

[Totalcolour]

Well, i got a lot accomplished today. Went to Cabellas and got some vacu-seal bags for the piggies hubby butchered this weekend. You'd think they'd make bigger bags - I had to cut some of those legs up to fit them in those tiny little bags.

Went to the bank, did some shopping, got some laundry done, and now I'm having a glass of wine before making dinner. Hope everyone has a really wonderful evening.

 

[KMoran]

OOOOO I love Cabellas..... They are opening one up here near me this spring. I CANT wait I am almost giddy... I know its so bad. But I cant wait... Thanks for the reminder too I need to pick up bags for my food saver for when I do my Cornish's Chickens here in a few weeks.