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Obama care is going to make this worse. 30 million people who previously did not have insurance, will be covered by 'the rest of us' through our taxes.

There are two major problems with our current health care system.

First - Our current system is a 'pay for service' system. By that I mean, that every time you go to a doctor, or get a test done, the doctor gets paid. The doctor is incented to see you more often, not to make you better. If he/she 'heals' you right away, they loose out on income. But if they have you come back for a follow up, or they order additional tests, then they make more money. There is an alternative, called 'Episode of care', or 'Bundled payment' where a 'budget' (either annual for chronic illness like diabetes, or episodic, for things like knee replacements) is created. This budget is then spread across all medical providers involved with your care. If the providers can avoid complications (a list of Potentially Avoidable Complications - PACs for short - are also generated based on the patients past medical history) they receive a bonus. This type of payment system actually encourages the providers who are taking care of you to do two things. One - get you healthy, with the least number of visits/tests necessary, and two - make sure that you are doing your best to avoid those complications. The challenge here is to get providers to agree to this type of system, as they will argue amongst them selves as to who should get the biggest part of the budget - and how do we hold the patient accountable. If the patient's providers tell her to take her meds, and she doesn't the providers should not be punished. One proposed method is to require a non-conforming patient to pay a higher premium. There are several insurance payors already using this type of payment system, but the vast majority of them are small and own the hospitals, clinics and doctors that the covered patients see. Another advantage of the EOC (episode of care) system is that the data it provides helps us determine which doctors have the least amount of PAC (potentially avoidable complications). We can also determine which doctors had a higher number of patients in poor health (those patients will have a higher EOC budget). Dr's whose patients have higher EOC budget AND whose patients have a lower PAC rate - that's a **** good doctor.

Second - Pricing transparency. Right now many hospitals are at the mercy of their suppliers. For example a young lady that I was close to had a very serious car accident. As a result she needed to have her neck fused. The two metal rods and the 18 screws cost the hospital 94k, not to mention any of the costs involved with the surgery itself. These exact same screws, from the exact same manufacture, when used in the equine industry, cost veterinarians only 18 dollars each. Hospitals are at the mercy of their vendors, and we are at the mercy of those hospitals. We, as a nation, need to get transparent pricing in place in our health care system. Hopefully we can soon get to a point where if you need a knee replacement you can not only "price shop" but you will also be able to view the track record (success rate, and ability to avoid those complications) of both hospitals and doctors.

The United States spends 2.3 BILLION dollars on health care alone. If that is compared to the GNP of other countries in the word it would stand in the top 10. Consider another travesty - Drugs are cheaper in Canada than they are in the the USA. Why? Simply because our government allows it. Anyone familiar with Medicare's prescription drug program is keenly aware of that -- but did you know that the US government, according to law is not ALLOWED to negotiate prices with the drug companies -- those companies are allowed to set their prices to anything they want and Medicare will pay it.

VF " your preachn to the choir" here my friend! I have read some of this not all so I appreciate the update, but, yea, the VA system is much like what it will be like, so there's no argument here!
Also, as a vet tech, I have obviously seen the prices of not only veterinary drugs but most supplies we use, there is NO excuse for the high prices, except for the reasons you have stated, so......yea. Got the message!
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So I thought Id share a cute story
We have some new neighbors that are formerly "city" folks It a family with 6 kids all under the age of 8.. all so cute. The little boy who is the oldest Loves to come over and help me with chores.

He was over yesterday and was so thirsty so I told him to get a drink out of the hose. He looked at me like I was speaking gibberish.. So I said its OK.. that's how farmers get drinks:) I told him it would be the BEST water he ever tasted.. He tried it and LOVED it... So we finished up our chores and his Mom came over with his little sisters. She and I were standing talking and all of the sudden she gasped and her eyes got really big.. LIL she was looking at her kids.. Her son was telling his little sisters about the awesome tasting water and had all of them lined up and was teaching them how to drink out of the hose . The kids were loving it. Well come to find out Mom said that she can NEVER EVER get her kids to drink water . She had tried special cups.. flavoring it, bribing them etc... and here they were just lapping it up.

Another thing that happened during their visit that was cute.. My chickens are molting.. The 5 year old little girl was standing there just staring at my chickens. Pretty soon she looked up and asked "Do you vacuum your chickens??" I was taken back and said "No Why do you ask that" She said "Because I was thinkin you did an you are vacuuming those ones too much" she said this pointing at my 2 worst looking molting girls.. LOL


BTW... WELCOME NEWCOMERS.... AND BEST WISHES TO ALL !!

OMG!! that is sooo cute!! And the water out of a hose IS the best water!! Unless of course it's irrigation water!!
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HA !!!
I finally caught up again..............was gone all day yesterda dealing with stuff
And meet up with mikeyB to give the Jersey Giant cockerel a new home.
These birds are far too expensive & beautiful to send to freezer camp.
Maria Hall sells her eggs for $100 a doz (and you only get 1 doz) plus shipping......her birds are awesome !
So yeah, none of them go in the freezer.
Today is clean up the yard day (as soon as it warms up outside) so hopefully it looks nice when the appraiser pops in....right now the garden is dying & vines & squash are dying & the whole thing needs attention.
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Other than that, I am reading a book called "Loose the Wheat; Loose the Weight" by William Davis, MD and it is extrodinary how GMO wheat effects the body all in negative ways that regular wheat never did.
In the 70s when GMO wheat was introduced, I can almost pin point the exact day I started getting sick with Celiac Disease, as GMO wheat we know today has much, much more glutens in it than wheat of long ago that our mothers used.
Now, I need to read up on GMO corn & legumes (soy & beans) and see what they contain & how they effect the body.
It is both extremely scarey & very sad that Genetic modification is making our food poison...especially effecting sensitive individuals, those with genetic pre-dispositions (chrones, ulcerative colitis, celiac disease or IBS and Autism & other mental issues as well as diabetes)
No one in my Father's generation had a "beer belly" which is just another word for WHEAT belly...our mothers never worked out or jogged..and they all had tiny waistlines.....and I (we)ate bread with every meal back then...but not since GMO wheat has been widely farmed here.
Sad.

Just read something like that on an old CBS article, printed in 2010
 
I hate Comcast...I hate their channel line up & how you just want to watch 1 channel but have to buy the entire "teir" with 40 channels.
I miss my direct TV...we had 1 flat fee, very resonible, and got ALL the channels.


But not sure if it would work well here with so many cloudy days (dish TV as well)
Anyone with Direct TV or dish TV please let me know if your TV service is interupted by heavy cloud cover or rain...OK ???


Ok back to work for me~~~~~~~~~~~
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Don't know about cloudy days!!
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But, I was a dish subscriber for 15 years till two years ago when they started changing the programing without informing people! I would get the channels I thought I had paid for and the next thing you know, their changing it, or taking it off!!
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And their prices kept going up year after year after year!
NO thanks!!

Oh BTW on the wheat subject, the wheat we consume now, has an opiate effect on our brains, ( from the gmo strains) so that is why people get carb addicted, and in this article it said when people quit eating wheat products they lost 30 or more lbs! I can attest to that, I've done it more than once, do remember the conversation we had and I told you all I have to do is look at bread and I blow up?.......there be the reason!!
 
Well I have been gone awhile. Death in the family and had to go to Colorado. Close to 500 pages behind, so well, I just jumped ahead.
Unfortunately while we were gone, we lost our favorite chicken. The neighbors who were taking care of the animals couldnt find her one night and she was found dead the next day, next to the fence, her neck broken but uneaten. Not sure what killed her. We have raccoons, coyotes and the builder said he thought he saw a wild cat (bobcat?) but I would think any of those would have eaten her, so I am not sure what happened.
So we are down to 2 ladies, and we get only 1 egg a day . I guess we will be buying eggs this winter still. I hope to get more chicks in the spring. We are enlarging our coop/run and want to have 15 or so, with a run big enough that I don't need to let them free range if we are out of town for a week.

So sorry for all your trouble!! hang in there!
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