Weird air cell

Its really hard for anyone else to tell you what to do. These are your eggs and only you can see what is really going on with them. The timelines are only a rough guide to the way things can happen. I have had a duckling break the shell and be out within 6 hours- and others I have had take four days from pip to hatch. Being that they are still a few days off really being due- if they were my eggs I would give them more time. If they ducklings are strong enough- they will hatch when they are ready. If they arent- then maybe the early cracks in the hell was a sign that something wasnt right and these ones were meant to make it. Assisting a duckling to hatch- especially if done to early can end up doing more harm than good.

Are any of the cracks actually in the air sac area - or are they all in the darker area when candled?
 
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The original egg crack has gotten longer and it starts in the dark area and now ends at an area where the dark meets white. Is this a good sign?
 
If it has increased in size due to the duckling pushing on the egg then that is a good sign.. but what about the cracks in the other two eggs? Where are they on the egg?
 
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I can't speak to Pekins, but I can tell you that I have had a viable and vigorous baby Call hatch out all by itself on late day 22/early day 23. So it is possible. I've also had them hatch as late as day 29, though I am seeing the early babies seem to do better than late ones once they are out. Late ones take longer before they are ready to go to the brooder.

I agree with what people are saying about this air cell being too large/the egg being too dehydrated at this point. I'd up the humidity and absolutely quit spraying, *BUT*, with that said, I would also be checking all the other eggs with the candler...there may be eggs that do need spraying still. Have had that happen too. Working with several different varieties and families of Calls, not all my eggs run on the same schedule of drying down even though they are all set the same day. I personally am not afraid to run my candler over the eggs every day if need be, because I am hand-turning three times a day anyway. But I have a pretty good candler and I can do it quickly with a minimum of fussing around.

Everybody's results are going to vary depending upon where you are, your elevation, your humidity, storms, etc...all sorts of things can affect a hatch. Those numbers are more guidelines rather than hard and fast rules. You have to find your groove for your area and then figure out how to adjust for that, because as the seasons change, so can the "ground rules" you work out for yourself. Even a single day can make drastic changes, and not all machines perform the same either.

Right now my humidity is 79%-80% - I haven't been able to get it higher than 80% though.

I never go higher than 74% myself, if I can help it...I do sometimes have sticky babies depending on how long they take to get out, but that doesn't bother me so much because I know how to deal with it. Being as that you are on a learning curve here, you might want to stick with the higher humidity, but also bear in mind that any condensation forming inside the incubator/hatcher can also form inside the eggs and drown the babies if it goes too high. I personally let seeing that condensation be my guide on when to stop, and even if my hygrometer decides to quit I know my hatcher well enough by now to know where my air vents should be set and how much condensation we can stand to have. If I can't see inside the hatcher window at all, that's a no-go for us here because if I have a duckling in trouble I'm going to help. I'd rather have to wipe stickies than have a duckling almost completely rimmed and then get stuck and die because I didn't catch it.
 
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Not 100% sure. I am 99% sure that they are in the black area on the other 2 eggs. In a little while when I am able to settle my kids and get them in bed, I will try to get at a different angle on the incubator and try to look from a different angle to see exactly where they are. Almost positive the air cells are the same shape and cracks are in the same spots.
 
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This is just an idea, and I know I am likely getting way ahead of the game by suggesting this, but depending on how much hatching you intend to do, a separate hatcher is a great idea. You can move eggs into it as they come ready without disturbing others. Just a thought in case you decide to really get into this...I found that, for us, it makes the situation MUCH more controllable, and it also makes multiple staggered settings possible.
 
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This is just an idea, and I know I am likely getting way ahead of the game by suggesting this, but depending on how much hatching you intend to do, a separate hatcher is a great idea. You can move eggs into it as they come ready without disturbing others. Just a thought in case you decide to really get into this...I found that, for us, it makes the situation MUCH more controllable, and it also makes multiple staggered settings possible.

I'm not sure yet how much I intend on hatching. I am kind of addicted, but i am not sure if my nerves are cut out for it. LOL ... That is one reason we chose to make our own incubator. IF we do get into it more though, we have discussed buying a commercial incubator as well as a separate hatcher. It just all depends on how things go. IF these don't work out (
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You left out the most important point. It keeps the incubator clean! Especially good when you are using a Styrofoam incubator. I always say the the most expensive one for incubating, and the cheaper one for hatching.
 
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Not 100% sure. I am 99% sure that they are in the black area on the other 2 eggs. In a little while when I am able to settle my kids and get them in bed, I will try to get at a different angle on the incubator and try to look from a different angle to see exactly where they are. Almost positive the air cells are the same shape and cracks are in the same spots.

OK..So I would have been less worried if you had said at least one of the cracks was actually where the air cell is - but nothing you can really do but wait it out a bit longer at this stage. Being that the cracks are not in the aircell- making a breathing hole in through the shell at this stage is risky as you could actually puncture a vein and the duckling could bleed to death.
 
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Not 100% sure. I am 99% sure that they are in the black area on the other 2 eggs. In a little while when I am able to settle my kids and get them in bed, I will try to get at a different angle on the incubator and try to look from a different angle to see exactly where they are. Almost positive the air cells are the same shape and cracks are in the same spots.

OK..So I would have been less worried if you had said at least one of the cracks was actually where the air cell is - but nothing you can really do but wait it out a bit longer at this stage. Being that the cracks are not in the aircell- making a breathing hole in through the shell at this stage is risky as you could actually puncture a vein and the duckling could bleed to death.

Ok I do see what you are saying, but what about the original one where the crack meets the black and white? Also I think I read in one of the posts that when an actual external pip happens, it messes up the temp and humidity? I can't remember where I saw that but saw it in the last couple days. My humidity went from 83% down to 64% in like less than a minute. Temp went from 97 to 100 as well.... Not sure why. Could be pip somewhere? I'm getting my kids ready for bed and after ward I am going to try to look at all angles of the incubator that i can see through the glass.
 

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