Welcome to the Round Table

[Chicken poppy]

Figured i would just put this out there
https://themarshmallow.co/contact/?v=7516fd43adaa This is a apparently amazing marshmallow company that has a LOT of flavors.
All their marshmallows are halal, but contain beef gelatin so unfortunately not vegan.

 

[Chicken poppy]

I'm happy there more vegan/vegetarian options in town at fast food places because I know most of the local joints won't have any and any time I try to actually get something made kosher style half the time they get it wrong and I feel horrible returning the food.

Me to. One time i ordered from a restaurant and kept saying no chicken to the dish and they said “yes to the chicken?” Each time.
Guess what i got? Extra chicken.

 

[miss heny]

Me to. One time i ordered from a restaurant and kept saying no chicken to the dish and they said “yes to the chicken?” Each time.
Guess what i got? Extra chicken.

Yesterday alone asked for **black bean** chalupa

Got BEEF. Even AFTER triple asking hardy asked for chicken bbq sandwich no bacon or cheese. Got their chicken BLT with cheese thank God I don't have known allergies.

 

[Iluveggers]

You all are making me glad I don’t eat fast food!

 

[ruthhope]

With how often some threads I been on been derailed by me or others having a friendly healthy discussion I figured I should be productive and make a thread dedicated to this.

So the rules are pretty simple, we are all humans and contrary to the site with the tweeting birds have feelings that can be hurt. This thread is for people who want to have genuine dialog about relevant topics like veganism (currently being the hot topic) but open to other tangents. The only thing I am going to say is hard offlimits is Religion unless from the grounds of religious pov on something IE again Veganism and animap welfare.

So lets have fun, learn and end of the day still be friends even if we may disagree. The goal isn't to change a person minds but give them a new perspective.

Thank you for setting up the round table, @miss heny .

Lets all be kind during the discussion even when we disagree with others. As it happens I was vegetarian for 15 years until I married my husband [35 years ago]. At his home, they would cook meat and rice when they had visitors -- as a sign of respect. Normally they eat lentils vegetables and rice with occasional small amounts of meat. I, coming from a different country and different culture, was considered a guest and my life was very difficult. It's not possible to eat plain boiled rice -- it clags the mouth.

I was a vegetarian because I was interesed in food politics and I approached my need to change from a sociocultural perspective.
Where I was living [in Nepal] there are no factory farms. People raie their own livestock. There is a strong religious culture of keeping a holy cow and benefiting from the gifts of the cow: milk, yoghurt, ghee. My husband's family don't eat eggs, but some families kept hens and ducks for their eggs and some ate the male poultry.. The preferred meat was goat and that was mainly eated in their harvest festival season when most of the animals had to be killed before the winter when there was not enough food to feed them. [Many poor Nepalis dont have enough food and by the end of the winter are in "negative energy balance" expending more calories on living than they ate. Thos poor Nepalis don't eat meat or poultry or eggs as they cannot afford them. They would eat honey if they find a wild hive. But everyone who eats meat or poultry knows exactly what they are eating - they see the naimals runnign round on legs; they see the animals slaughtered; the meat doesnt; come in aesthetic packages in a supermarket. So my socio-cultural response was to eat small amounts of the local food when I couldn;t tell them [which I couldn;t tell my husband's family] that I woudl get more pleasure from seeing them eat the chicken;/fish or whatever than I would get from eating it myself. As I became less of a guest in my husband's family home, I was able to most days -- like his family -- eat rice, lentils and vegetables although we were always given ghee on the food and sometimes a cup of yoghurt.

Anyway, since marriage and then moving to our own home, I eat a Mediterranean diet with very little meat and try and educate my husband but he eats meat when I don't -- he will eat the meal I cooked and then say do we have any pork? He then cooks himself a pork chop. It's very bad for his health -- he is diabetic with metabolic syndrome -- but he says he doesn't care if his life is shorter as a result, as long a he is happy while he is alive. :'(

My son is vegetarian and for some years was vegan as his then girlfriend was vegan. She was surprised that I cooked them a great variety of vegan food, but for me it was easy. In the years I was vegetarian I dropped back on eating dairy and fish as I like cooking with fresh veggies, beans and lentils.

I am a prime example of someone unable to convince another [a loved one at that] to change their food habits. Well he has changed quite a lot but his craving for meat all the time continues to be a problem.

 

[Aunt Angus]

Me to. One time i ordered from a restaurant and kept saying no chicken to the dish and they said “yes to the chicken?” Each time.
Guess what i got? Extra chicken.

I went on a field trip with a student who was Muslim. She ordered a vegetarian meal because so few places offer halal. It was a convention, so the dinner was catered, paid for by our organization.

They brought her food out. It was chicken. I turned to the server and said, "She doesn't eat meat. Can you bring her a vegetarian meal?" The guy just scraped the chicken off her plate onto another and handed her the plate. I'm like, "That doesn't cut it." He refused to bring her another meal, so I got up and left with her. We went out for cheese pizza instead.

 

[Sally PB]

I gave that a thumbs up as a "Good for you!"

I had to think of which to do: Wow, mad, or like. I felt all 3.

 

[Sally PB]

I'm gluten free, as I have a mild allergy to gluten. I am so grateful that I don't have celiac.

I'm a pain in the butt to cook for when we go to friends or visit relatives. Someone has to plan something for me, or for everyone that I can eat too. But they do it, and I think they do it gladly.

I feel like eating a vegetarian or vegan diet should be the individual's choice. Fine by me.

And for heaven's sake... if you advertise vegetarian/vegan food, or agree to serve it, you had better serve it. No, scraping the chicken off the plate is not gonna cut it.

There, I can put the angry face in my post.

 

[miss heny]

People literally don't care at times. How many stories have we heard of barristad putting whole milk instead of nut milk in coffee?

 

[Aunt Angus]

I'm gluten free, as I have a mild allergy to gluten. I am so grateful that I don't have celiac.

I'm a pain in the butt to cook for when we go to friends or visit relatives. Someone has to plan something for me, or for everyone that I can eat too. But they do it, and I think they do it gladly.

I feel like eating a vegetarian or vegan diet should be the individual's choice. Fine by me.

And for heaven's sake... if you advertise vegetarian/vegan food, or agree to serve it, you had better serve it. No, scraping the chicken off the plate is not gonna cut it.

There, I can put the angry face in my post.

And it's wasn't a matter of my student not liking meat. There's a significant lack of awareness of designations like Kosher and halal. She was trying to make it easy by ordering vegetarian.

And we were in an area where there are plenty of Muslims. Like her hijab didn't tip them off?

That was a terrible trip. We went back to school and disbanded the club because we no longer wanted to be part of that organization.