Welsummer Puzzler

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by figlette, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. figlette

    figlette Out Of The Brooder

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    It's a girl!

    It's a girl!

    It's a ???!

    As young chicks they all very looked like sweet little Welsummer gals, but now I am starting to question whether Matilda is actually just Matt. I called the farm where she came from a week or so ago because she was lagging so far behind the bigger girls, but she did finally start developing feathers. And two days ago she started developing a serious comb. Hoping she just is well endowed. Anyone have any thoughts?

    If we have a Roo, I would like to get him swapped out sooner rather than later in hopes that the toddler doesn't notice. [​IMG] Mat(t)ilda is in the back in the first picture and the middle of the second.

    Thanks for looking at the girls (I hope). And side note, Welsummer chicks are big girls!

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  2. AussieSharon

    AussieSharon Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dec 18, 2007
    Virginia
    Sorry but I am thinking Matt too.
     
  3. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Has the chick in question got black feathers coming in on its chest? Looks like it in the photos. If so, I think Matt also. Welsummer males have black on their chests rather than salmon brown, I'm told.
     
  4. AussieSharon

    AussieSharon Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dec 18, 2007
    Virginia
    Cyn please come to my place and sex my 6 welsummer chicks. They all look the same, I either have 6 roos or 6 pullets.
     
  5. BikerBabeRules

    BikerBabeRules Chillin' With My Peeps

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    As a rule, Welsummer boys have silvery coloring to them. Mine all did anyways and that's what I found when I researched. The girls were all brown, and chimpmunky colored. I say you have girls. :)
     
  6. SeaChick

    SeaChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 25, 2007
    Southern Maine
    I'm going to link this to my thread with the same question. Happily, the consensus on mine is pullets... they both have brown, not black, feathers coming in on the side of the breast. In this thread, check out the photos (you have to click the links) of Vicki2x2's chicks on page 3... you can see the black on the cockerel!
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=42127&p=1


    Here are more recent pics and responses on my girls (look about the same age as yours!):
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=44670

    And, yeah, my WElsummers are MONSTER chicks!! Way bigger and stockier than the others, especially at 1-2 weeks...

    Stacey
     
  7. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Sharon, you can bet I'll be here in a month asking for help sexing my own Welsummers! Sometimes it takes someone not so close to the situation, I think, LOL.
     
  8. flyingmonkeypoop

    flyingmonkeypoop Overrun With Chickens

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    It looks like a male. I can kinda see black breast feathers. Also, he is feathering in slower, so they are sexlinked slow feathering, the males take forever and the females feather in quick.
     
  9. figlette

    figlette Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you everyone. Looking at the picture of the Roo makes me lean even further towards boy. I have been suspect without basis of her being a him for awhile now, but the pointy made me really question things. Thank you for the insight on feathering. Will keep an eye on the breast feathers before I decide whether I need to drive her back to the farm.
     
  10. figlette

    figlette Out Of The Brooder

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    So Matilda is definitely a Matt. If anyone is trying to sex Welsummers, these are the things I noticed that lead me to suspect that she was a he:

    Very slow feather development compared to the pullets.
    Slower growth curve than the pullets.
    Slightly V shaped comb about 3 weeks, which started to grow rapidly at about 4 weeks and began pinking up.
    Slighter in general than the pullets. This is what kept throwing me off. His legs were thinner and shorter, but he was also shorter and slighter in general.
    Did not notice a difference in the way he carried himself.
    He DID have the "V" on his head, which I understand is a female trait (perhaps he is transgender)
    His eyeliner disappeared at about 4 weeks

    All is well. Matt is back on the farm and we now have two Americaunas taking his place. If anyone is around Portland, Oregon and interested in a Welsummer roo, just holler. I know one who is looking for a new home.
     

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