Westford, MA swap Sun. ****april 11TH

[Tony K T]

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Temperature related?

I did post in the incubation forum on this. Everyone felt it's the luck of the draw. I just had really bad luck.

More than one person posted if I hatched 100 or more chicks then my ratio would be closer to 50/50. I'm not sure I want that many roos.

It may well be a temperature issue.
If you think about all the animals that lay eggs. they build their nests for the needs of the echo system.

Alligators and Crocodiles lay eggs in a nest built either for hotter or cooler, I cant remember which produces more females to male and vice a verse
I am going to look it up and get back to you.
I know something was said on Animal Planet about how breeders regulate which sex of gator is born using temperature.
and IF chickens are actually Dinosaurs in disguise like the Alligator and Crocodile it would make sense.

I found this really interesting study, it may or may not give answers specific to chickens but it is definitely food for thought.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1629050/

I was told the same thing on pheasants that lowering the heat produces more hens.After breeding pheasants for over 28 years,I don't believe a word of it.For reptiles yes,less heat more females,not true for anything other then reptiles.Not saying I didn't try cause what is 1/2 degree going to hurt?I still had a lot of males.
Wendys bator is a sportsmen.If anyone is looking for a sportsmen,I have one for sale.I have a new Dickey so no longer need the sportmen.I don't know what is wrong with it the temp went up to 120 even with a back up.The thermostats and wafers,turner motor and a bigger fan was added to it in the last 2 years.
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[gypsy2621]

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If I work on anything feather relaed it will only be the Jersy Buff Turkeys and those I wont need to go anywhere other than westford to sell, if I sell any that is , where they are so endangered I will be putting only the best of the best up for sale and the rest will go into the freezer.

We will be turning the big coop into a greenhouse and using the smaller ones for the turkeys and the smallest one for a grow out pen.

Oh I am not being pushed around for anything or anyone, I have just decided like I did with rabbit shows and such that not dealing with people is healthier for them.

turkeys, cool, could have sold all if you were selling in plaistow last weekend. everyone was asking for turkeys
should have a pen of the cheaper type and a pen of the expensive type! LOL i have never done turkeys, i think they would need way more room than i have and dont they eat a ton?

The broad breasted thanksgiving types do , but heritage breeds dont consume nearly as much feed per bird.
The heritage breeds grow out slower and take a little more time to mature. spring poults will be ready to breed the next spring/early summer.
they are natural breeders unlike the thanksgiving turkeys which have to be inseminated by humans ( too big to breed naturally).

I really wish more responsible breeders would pickup on some of the heritage breeds of birds, if they did we could do away with the Poultry Section on the Conservancy lists.

 

[gypsy2621]

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It may well be a temperature issue.
If you think about all the animals that lay eggs. they build their nests for the needs of the echo system.

Alligators and Crocodiles lay eggs in a nest built either for hotter or cooler, I cant remember which produces more females to male and vice a verse
I am going to look it up and get back to you.
I know something was said on Animal Planet about how breeders regulate which sex of gator is born using temperature.
and IF chickens are actually Dinosaurs in disguise like the Alligator and Crocodile it would make sense.

I found this really interesting study, it may or may not give answers specific to chickens but it is definitely food for thought.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1629050/

I was told the same thing on pheasants that lowering the heat produces more hens.After breeding pheasants for over 28 years,I don't believe a word of it.For reptiles yes,less heat more females,not true for anything other then reptiles.Not saying I didn't try cause what is 1/2 degree going to hurt?I still had a lot of males.
Wendys bator is a sportsmen.If anyone is looking for a sportsmen,I have one for sale.I have a new Dickey so no longer need the sportmen.I don't know what is wrong with it the temp went up to 120 even with a back up.The thermostats and wafers,turner motor and a bigger fan was added to it in the last 2 years.
In N.H.,Tony.

I know someone who may be interested in the Sportsman , what are you asking for it? you can Pm me rather than post it here if you like.

I wonder if the temperature spike isnt a motor going to bad? it happens sometimes. or there might be something plugged up that hasnt been spotted yet, who knows, they are finiky things lol.

On the link I posted about temp differences, it was interesting reading but it left a lot more questions than it answered.
not only that it was a bit contradictory in some spots.

out of the 10 eggs I hatched in the LG for a friend, I got 6 roosters and 4 little hens, and there was temperature fluxes all over the charts. drove me crazy,( like I need that much help)

 

[shay20]

Ok, i am looking for baby duck full grown ducka as pairs or trios, or even eggs.
if any one knows of any please let me know.

 

[Tony K T]

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I was told the same thing on pheasants that lowering the heat produces more hens.After breeding pheasants for over 28 years,I don't believe a word of it.For reptiles yes,less heat more females,not true for anything other then reptiles.Not saying I didn't try cause what is 1/2 degree going to hurt?I still had a lot of males.
Wendys bator is a sportsmen.If anyone is looking for a sportsmen,I have one for sale.I have a new Dickey so no longer need the sportmen.I don't know what is wrong with it the temp went up to 120 even with a back up.The thermostats and wafers,turner motor and a bigger fan was added to it in the last 2 years.
In N.H.,Tony.

I know someone who may be interested in the Sportsman , what are you asking for it? you can Pm me rather than post it here if you like.

I wonder if the temperature spike isnt a motor going to bad? it happens sometimes. or there might be something plugged up that hasnt been spotted yet, who knows, they are finiky things lol.

On the link I posted about temp differences, it was interesting reading but it left a lot more questions than it answered.
not only that it was a bit contradictory in some spots.

out of the 10 eggs I hatched in the LG for a friend, I got 6 roosters and 4 little hens, and there was temperature fluxes all over the charts. drove me crazy,( like I need that much help)

Asking 350.00 for it.It's the one on the left,I changed the glass door back to the solid door.
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[vnsseed]

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It may well be a temperature issue.
If you think about all the animals that lay eggs. they build their nests for the needs of the echo system.

Alligators and Crocodiles lay eggs in a nest built either for hotter or cooler, I cant remember which produces more females to male and vice a verse
I am going to look it up and get back to you.
I know something was said on Animal Planet about how breeders regulate which sex of gator is born using temperature.
and IF chickens are actually Dinosaurs in disguise like the Alligator and Crocodile it would make sense.

I found this really interesting study, it may or may not give answers specific to chickens but it is definitely food for thought.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1629050/

I was told the same thing on pheasants that lowering the heat produces more hens.After breeding pheasants for over 28 years,I don't believe a word of it.For reptiles yes,less heat more females,not true for anything other then reptiles.Not saying I didn't try cause what is 1/2 degree going to hurt?I still had a lot of males.
Wendys bator is a sportsmen.If anyone is looking for a sportsmen,I have one for sale.I have a new Dickey so no longer need the sportmen.I don't know what is wrong with it the temp went up to 120 even with a back up.The thermostats and wafers,turner motor and a bigger fan was added to it in the last 2 years.
In N.H.,Tony.

Not temperature in the incubator. Something to do with the storage of eggs prior to incubation. Jen is Bill Nye the Science Guy... er, gal. She can explain her theory better than I.

 

[Tony K T]

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I was told the same thing on pheasants that lowering the heat produces more hens.After breeding pheasants for over 28 years,I don't believe a word of it.For reptiles yes,less heat more females,not true for anything other then reptiles.Not saying I didn't try cause what is 1/2 degree going to hurt?I still had a lot of males.
Wendys bator is a sportsmen.If anyone is looking for a sportsmen,I have one for sale.I have a new Dickey so no longer need the sportmen.I don't know what is wrong with it the temp went up to 120 even with a back up.The thermostats and wafers,turner motor and a bigger fan was added to it in the last 2 years.
In N.H.,Tony.

Not temperature in the incubator. Something to do with the storage of eggs prior to incubation. Jen is Bill Nye the Science Guy... er, gal. She can explain her theory better than I.

No,the inside temp went up to 120 degrees,absolutely nothing to do with the eggs.I was holding temps fine for years and now who knows what it problem is.I got fed up trying to figure it out and bought a new dickey.So if your wiring intelligent I'm sure you can find the problem.I have lots of extra parts to it that also goes along with it.
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[keesmom]

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No,the inside temp went up to 120 degrees,absolutely nothing to do with the eggs.I was holding temps fine for years and now who knows what it problem is.I got fed up trying to figure it out and bought a new dickey.So if your wiring intelligent I'm sure you can find the problem.I have lots of extra parts to it that also goes along with it.
In N.H.,Tony.

I think Dave's post was in response to the temperature vs roos question.

 

[keesmom]

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One breeder's page I saw a while ago thought that hatches early in the season tended to have more pullets and later season hatches tended to be more roos. Don't know if there's any scientific evidence for that.

 

[Poultry Run Farm]

Been reading through these post on all the Roo's. Very interesting for sure. We have had mostly pullets with the favs and the rest have been about 50/50. Where these are our own eggs I must admit we aren't too careful about storage before we incubate. Some are put in sometimes up to 2 weeks after they have been laid if the bator is full, we try to turn them every day when we remember sometimes they go a few days not being turned. We also have a sportsman and the temp stays around 99.5-100.5. We've even lost power and they have still done pretty well.

Edited to add we started hatching in February and are still going on select breeds