What are these two? 30 weeks. Can’t tell

Euphillia

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Apr 23, 2012
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My friend sent me these photos tonite. 30 weeks. Not laying. Not crowing much bigger than the other three hens. We can’t decide. They were supposed to be Copper Marans. The three other hens def are.
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bird 1
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bird 2

thanks for your imput. Body says hen. But those pointy feathers and size make her think twice
 
My friend sent me these photos tonite. 30 weeks. Not laying. Not crowing much bigger than the other three hens. We can’t decide. They were supposed to be Copper Marans. The three other hens def are. View attachment 2442974
bird 1View attachment 2442975bird 2

thanks for your imput. Body says hen. But those pointy feathers and size make her think twice
Those are defintely both roos. 1000%.
Top is a Blue laced red wyandotte roo.
Not sure about the second. Chocolate Orp maybe? More likely a mix though.
 

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