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Yeah, i figured they were probably ginger red/BBred crosses. They do look like a mixture of the colors, but i've seen some BBreds pretty close so just wrote them off as that.
 
There are so many OEG colors that they are too often mixed and matched and the resulting birds are hard to identify. Its a shame that so many people cross the colors with each other when its hard enough to find a properly marked bird in the basic patterns. There are some Creles posted somewhere that the cock appears almost a bbred version and the hens look like a lt brown crele. I know its just a matter of adding the barring gene, but a correct Crele is stunning! I wonder why more people don't work with those.
 
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Rebecca Leeuw and Herman woody (you can find some photos online) have some of the nicest Creles i have seen.. I agree, im not much for the barred/cuckoo colors but if proper they can be quite stunning.
 

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