I ordered some layers also from a hatchery requesting ISA browns. ISA Browns are supposed to be a cross between "Rhode Island Red (female) and Rhode Island White (male)". Later (about 1 month later!) I managed to get them to tell me they were a cross between RIR and New Hampshires "but they are the same thing as". This cross is called a cherry egger, not an ISA Brown, However, mine are red. I was really P^%&&@#!!!