What color of Coturnix is this?

[Coturnix Lover]

I am thinking white-wing pied for sure, however, there still seems to be further distinction. For example, the white pied on the southwest gamebird site is specifically a pharaoh white-wing pied. My bird isn't as dark as a pharaoh, so I was wondering if anyone has any ideas.

 

[Nabiki]

First, quail don't have breeds.
Species is coturnix, as for colour morph, I would guess some sort of fee, maybe Italian fee?

 

[Coturnix Lover]

First, quail don't have breeds.
Species is coturnix, as for colour morph, I would guess some sort of fee, maybe Italian fee?

The pictures I see online of Italians seem to have more of a consistent orange tone. I only see orange around the head area, so I don't think so. The quail is three weeks old, so I shouldn't get much more of a color difference in a week, if at all.

 

[Nabiki]

The pictures I see online of Italians seem to have more of a consistent orange tone. I only see orange around the head area, so I don't think so. The quail is three weeks old, so I shouldn't get much more of a color difference in a week, if at all.

That's why I said Italian fee. The orange is really washed out, which implies the presence of the fee gene. Fee washes the red out.

 

[Coturnix Lover]

That's why I said Italian fee. The orange is really washed out, which implies the presence of the fee gene. Fee washes the re

The fee gene should only affect the red, as you stated. Italians have pronounced black spots, and my quail doesn't.

 

[Nabiki]

The fee gene should only affect the red, as you stated. Italians have pronounced black spots, and my quail doesn't.

I'm just guessing since they keep updating the colours every six months or so.

 

[Susan Skylark]

Pied wing white isn’t a color in itself, there is always a base color (wild, Italian, eb, pansy). Fee and roux are modifiers of the base color. I’d actually go wild/pharaoh base with both roux (red) and fee (lightens or washes out color) making a washed out streaky red bird, also called Egyptian fee with white (tuxedo). The yellow around the eyes is just chick feathers. An Italian fee (or pearl) is a white bird with black streaking.

 

[Coturnix Lover]

Pied wing white isn’t a color in itself, there is always a base color (wild, Italian, eb, pansy). Fee and roux are modifiers of the base color. I’d actually go wild/pharaoh base with both roux (red) and fee (lightens or washes out color) making a washed out streaky red bird, also called Egyptian fee with white (tuxedo). The yellow around the eyes is just chick feathers. An Italian fee (or pearl) is a white bird with black streaking.

Here is a reply from someone who works with quail extensively professionally and has a very detailed website on plumage genetics for quail. If you want to check it out, their website is pipsnchicks.com. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Susan Skylark]

I’m a big fan of pipsnchicks!

 

[Susan Skylark]

Cinnamon have red eyes, so black eyes will rule that out. It can be hard to tell, I’ve got a maybe ginger that I’ll have to breed to see if it is sex linked recessive. And if you have Blau over Italian I’m totally jealous (that that was my ginger bird but it’s eb base), cool color whatever it is.