What colors will they produce?

[Strawberry74]

I have several sebastopol geese and am wondering what colors the following will likely make when paired up.

Gray saddleback gander with:
White goose
Gray saddleback goose
Gray goose
Blue splash goose
Buff goose

Buff/Lilac gander with:
White goose
Gray saddleback goose
Gray goose
Blue splash goose
Buff goose

Gray gander with:
White goose
Gray saddleback goose
Gray goose
Blue splash goose
Buff goose

Anyone have goose genetic experience to help give me an idea? Pic for fun!

 

[Pumperkinz]

Hi @Strawberry74

Grey SB / White - 50/50 Dilute Grey SB, Grey SB
Grey SB/Grey SB - Grey SB
Grey SB/ Grey - 50/50 Grey, Grey SB
Grey SB/ Blue Splash - 25/25/25/25 - Grey SB, Grey SB, Blue SB, Blue SB. There might be some dilution with these, as the spotting gene can throw some weird things in there just as an fyi.
Grey SB/ Buff - 50/50 - Grey (Split Buff/SB), Grey Saddleback

Lilac/White - 25/25/25/25 - Buff, Dilute (Grey), Dilute (Blue), Lilac
Lilac/Grey SB - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split SB, Buff), Buff, Grey (Split SB, Buff), Lilac.
Lilac/Grey - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split Buff), Grey (Split Buff), Lilac, Buff.
Lilac/Blue Splash - 25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 - Blue, Lilac, Buff, Cream, Grey, Lavender.
Lilac/Buff - 50/50 - Lilac, Buff

Grey/White - 50/50 - Dilute Grey (Split SB), Grey.
Grey/Grey SB - 50/50 - Grey (Split SB) Males, Grey Females
Grey/Grey - 100% Grey
Grey/Blue Splash - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split SB), Grey (Split SB), Blue, Grey.
Grey/Buff - 50/50 - Grey (Split Buff) Males, Grey Females

Anything split will not show, but still carries it in their genetics.

Your Buff in on the right looks to be a SB so not sure if that messes with anything there

Also the back left lilac I think, might be sun-washed but I'd be interested to see their color if that is the buff/lilac you note.

Hope this helps. Also of note the Spotted Blue girl do you have an up close picture of her?

That's the only one where I'm a little apprehensive on genetics because sometimes they splash gene might just be an overly marked SB. Or an under marked SB etc.

If you need any help or have more detailed questions please let me know!

- Brad

 

[Strawberry74]

Hi @Strawberry74

Grey SB / White - 50/50 Dilute Grey SB, Grey SB
Grey SB/Grey SB - Grey SB
Grey SB/ Grey - 50/50 Grey, Grey SB
Grey SB/ Blue Splash - 25/25/25/25 - Grey SB, Grey SB, Blue SB, Blue SB. There might be some dilution with these, as the spotting gene can throw some weird things in there just as an fyi.
Grey SB/ Buff - 50/50 - Grey (Split Buff/SB), Grey Saddleback

Lilac/White - 25/25/25/25 - Buff, Dilute (Grey), Dilute (Blue), Lilac
Lilac/Grey SB - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split SB, Buff), Buff, Grey (Split SB, Buff), Lilac.
Lilac/Grey - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split Buff), Grey (Split Buff), Lilac, Buff.
Lilac/Blue Splash - 25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 - Blue, Lilac, Buff, Cream, Grey, Lavender.
Lilac/Buff - 50/50 - Lilac, Buff

Grey/White - 50/50 - Dilute Grey (Split SB), Grey.
Grey/Grey SB - 50/50 - Grey (Split SB) Males, Grey Females
Grey/Grey - 100% Grey
Grey/Blue Splash - 25/25/25/25 - Blue (Split SB), Grey (Split SB), Blue, Grey.
Grey/Buff - 50/50 - Grey (Split Buff) Males, Grey Females

Anything split will not show, but still carries it in their genetics.

Your Buff in on the right looks to be a SB so not sure if that messes with anything there

Also the back left lilac I think, might be sun-washed but I'd be interested to see their color if that is the buff/lilac you note.

Hope this helps. Also of note the Spotted Blue girl do you have an up close picture of her?

That's the only one where I'm a little apprehensive on genetics because sometimes they splash gene might just be an overly marked SB. Or an under marked SB etc.

If you need any help or have more detailed questions please let me know!

- Brad

Holy moly, you are a wealth of genetic knowledge! Thank you for taking the time.

I will definitely get you better pictures. The way the sun is shining is not showing their true colors and four of the birds are not in that picture at all, one of them being my buff goose. The one that looks buff Saddleback on the right is actually a gray Saddleback Gander. He is my most gorgeous bird ever and was sold to me as a female based on the cross that was set up. He turned out to be a stunning Gander. The one that I called buff / lilac is kind of a question mark for me. I thought he was buff but then when mated with my white girl last year threw some blue colored babies. Someone I got some birds from this year in Pennsylvania mentioned that he looks to have some blue undertones and thought he might be carrying Lilac or something along those lines. I don't know how it all works so I am so appreciative of having found someone who can help direct me. Of course I realize not knowing full lineage definitely throws a curve ball. I'll try and get some better pics this evening and give some more background on who hatched from what possible pairings.

 

[Pumperkinz]

Holy moly, you are a wealth of genetic knowledge! Thank you for taking the time.

I will definitely get you better pictures. The way the sun is shining is not showing their true colors and four of the birds are not in that picture at all, one of them being my buff goose. The one that looks buff Saddleback on the right is actually a gray Saddleback Gander. He is my most gorgeous bird ever and was sold to me as a female based on the cross that was set up. He turned out to be a stunning Gander. The one that I called buff / lilac is kind of a question mark for me. I thought he was buff but then when mated with my white girl last year threw some blue colored babies. Someone I got some birds from this year in Pennsylvania mentioned that he looks to have some blue undertones and thought he might be carrying Lilac or something along those lines. I don't know how it all works so I am so appreciative of having found someone who can help direct me. Of course I realize not knowing full lineage definitely throws a curve ball. I'll try and get some better pics this evening and give some more background on who hatched from what possible pairings.

Yes - and knowing parentage is important in knowing how their babies will pop out.
And no problem it's just genetics

A big thing with crossing in white causes the dilutions, where you start seeing white around the beaks etc.

Some of my best birds are saddlebacks!

My goal this year is working on my greys, and moving to a white line personally.

If you ever need anything please don't hesitate to reach out!