What colors will they produce?

[Pumperkinz]

Up next is Jack(pot), formerly Eleanor. Had a name change when HE revealed himself! He has the most beautiful and upright posture and a quiet disposition, definitely my biggest gander. I question if he fathered most of the babies this year even though all 4 ganders were a possibility. Four of the girls have his same large structure and upright stance. Two whites and two Blues or blue splash or whatever they are. This is the one that you questioned in the photo that might be a buff Saddleback but the light was making him look buff . But he's a Gray Saddleback. View attachment 4264184View attachment 4264185View attachment 4264186

Oh to answer the throwing white goslings, yes this would be where your white goslings would come from.

His dilution would show up white girls mostly from the goslings he parented (From memory I don't have my chart with me).

 

[Strawberry74]

Oh to answer the throwing white goslings, yes this would be where your white goslings would come from.

His dilution would show up white girls mostly from the goslings he parented (From memory I don't have my chart with me).

That's interesting that he would produce white girls specifically. White mama did hatch 2 white females this year. Actually her entire brood of 5 (6 but lost one in the first few days) were all female! 2 white, 2 blue and a gray. As noted it's a crap shoot which of the 4 boys are the father/fathers. It was quite amusing though because when the babies were hatching all four boys were crowded around mama in the coop watching expectantly. The other female I had was outside thinking what about me?!

What is this chart you speak of?

 

[Pumperkinz]

That's interesting that he would produce white girls specifically. White mama did hatch 2 white females this year. Actually her entire brood of 5 (6 but lost one in the first few days) were all female! 2 white, 2 blue and a gray. As noted it's a crap shoot which of the 4 boys are the father/fathers. It was quite amusing though because when the babies were hatching all four boys were crowded around mama in the coop watching expectantly. The other female I had was outside thinking what about me?!

What is this chart you speak of?


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The boys generally will abduct babies

They really love to meet and greet, it's a whole social exercise lol.

I have some charts I hand do based on the genetics but it's mostly just me going through the genetics based on what combos come out.
There are quite a few posts about it in the forums too

How cute love me some sebbies!

 

[Strawberry74]

Ugh...I have disappointing news! Two of the 3 adolescent geese I kept because they were DNA tested as female are boys!! I have been slightly suspicious all along, but I was becoming really suspicious over the last several weeks as breeding season is gearing up. I vent sexed them, which was easier than I expected and yep, 100% boys The beautiful bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white.

I sold a trio recently with a confirmed 2 year old gray gander and another bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white that were confirmed dna sexed as female (all the same hatch). I'm not sure what I'd feel worse about if I sold them incorrectly sexed or if I said the ones I wanted to keep. Luckily it's to a friend and she's fine with it either way but I'm pretty upset over it. I had finally gotten my ratio to a point that I liked and now I'm male heavy AGAIN! Not to mention my beautiful gray dilute saddleback is actually a very handsome boy

Just venting! I have spoken with a couple other breeders and they have had incorrect results before too. I know a lot of factors go into DNA tests, contaminants etc, but it's still pretty frustrating especially when the tests I sent in were ran three times. Deciding who to sell is hard enough, but when you think you're selling/keeping a specific gender of a very expensive bird you want to be able to have confidence in who you're selling and who you're keeping. Such a bummer.

 

[Pumperkinz]

Ugh...I have disappointing news! Two of the 3 adolescent geese I kept because they were DNA tested as female are boys!! I have been slightly suspicious all along, but I was becoming really suspicious over the last several weeks as breeding season is gearing up. I vent sexed them, which was easier than I expected and yep, 100% boys The beautiful bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white.

I sold a trio recently with a confirmed 2 year old gray gander and another bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white that were confirmed dna sexed as female (all the same hatch). I'm not sure what I'd feel worse about if I sold them incorrectly sexed or if I said the ones I wanted to keep. Luckily it's to a friend and she's fine with it either way but I'm pretty upset over it. I had finally gotten my ratio to a point that I liked and now I'm male heavy AGAIN! Not to mention my beautiful gray dilute saddleback is actually a very handsome boy

Just venting! I have spoken with a couple other breeders and they have had incorrect results before too. I know a lot of factors go into DNA tests, contaminants etc, but it's still pretty frustrating especially when the tests I sent in were ran three times. Deciding who to sell is hard enough, but when you think you're selling/keeping a specific gender of a very expensive bird you want to be able to have confidence in who you're selling and who you're keeping. Such a bummer.

I got lucky this year.

3/4 were girls but DNA sexing was wrong on 50% of them.

I would say vent sexing after 4 months is the guarantee, DNA is nice if you have a trusted lab but it's still around 70-80% accurate for whatever reason.

I thought I was going to have 3 girls + 4 boys but in fact I saw my SB boy mating the very large lavender I was like hmm and yep Dee is back to Dorothy lol.

Where are you located?

 

[Pumperkinz]

Ugh...I have disappointing news! Two of the 3 adolescent geese I kept because they were DNA tested as female are boys!! I have been slightly suspicious all along, but I was becoming really suspicious over the last several weeks as breeding season is gearing up. I vent sexed them, which was easier than I expected and yep, 100% boys The beautiful bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white.

I sold a trio recently with a confirmed 2 year old gray gander and another bluish/gray dilute Saddleback and a white that were confirmed dna sexed as female (all the same hatch). I'm not sure what I'd feel worse about if I sold them incorrectly sexed or if I said the ones I wanted to keep. Luckily it's to a friend and she's fine with it either way but I'm pretty upset over it. I had finally gotten my ratio to a point that I liked and now I'm male heavy AGAIN! Not to mention my beautiful gray dilute saddleback is actually a very handsome boy

Just venting! I have spoken with a couple other breeders and they have had incorrect results before too. I know a lot of factors go into DNA tests, contaminants etc, but it's still pretty frustrating especially when the tests I sent in were ran three times. Deciding who to sell is hard enough, but when you think you're selling/keeping a specific gender of a very expensive bird you want to be able to have confidence in who you're selling and who you're keeping. Such a bummer.

I usually just refund for pricing if it's a surprise boy they didn't want.

If it's a girl they didn't want then I'll take it back but there is no price difference at least with me. (very rare tbh)

I'm currently working on gosling season myself. I have my GQF's ready to go, and about 30+ eggs ordered from locals + whites that I'm working on this year. So will see what I end up but plan is to use some DNA testing I can maybe even locally so I can bug them if something goes wrong lol.

 

[Strawberry74]

Glad to know this is common as I feel like I have had my fair share of gender disappointment with these geese lol.

I have 12 and now at a 1:1 ratio. 6 boys and 6 girls instead of a 2:1 ratio that I thought I had. Things are getting a little dicey so I'll be rearranging for the duration of breeding season unless I am able to sell some. We don't have a big market out here in Colorado.

So you have 4 girls and 3 boys? Do you separate by breeding groups?

 

[Pumperkinz]

Glad to know this is common as I feel like I have had my fair share of gender disappointment with these geese lol.

I have 12 and now at a 1:1 ratio. 6 boys and 6 girls instead of a 2:1 ratio that I thought I had. Things are getting a little dicey so I'll be rearranging for the duration of breeding season unless I am able to sell some. We don't have a big market out here in Colorado.

So you have 4 girls and 3 boys? Do you separate by breeding groups?

I used Silkie labs and 75% were off lol. I thought maybe it was me but I used feathers so it's very unlikely unless something happened in shipping.

I have 4/3 yes.

Honestly the best fertility is letting them free choose partners, but I know a lot of breeders that will do 1:1 or do 2:1 and have a gander only pen for things you don't want to mate.


One of my ganders is only 4 months old so he's a baby still, and clueless.

The other two ganders (Buff/Grey SB Split Buff), are mating each one has a lavender, and the grey/blue sb I have aren't letting them mate yet. The Blue SB had a heavy molt so she's still growing feathers, and the other grey is about 7 months old so i'm not sure if she will skip or hit a late egg laying season.

My hopes next year is to have the following 7 pens -

2 Full Whites
1 Grey/Grey SB
1 Lavender
1 Buff/Lilac/Cream
1 Full/Solid Grey
1 Sick/Gander Pen

I also have cameras up so I know mating, and stuff and track it daily. Of course if something pops out randomly I will know if it's from the grey SB boy or Buff, but my buff has paired off specifically with one girl, and the SB boy is not picky at all lol.

 

[Strawberry74]

I used Silkie labs and 75% were off lol. I thought maybe it was me but I used feathers so it's very unlikely unless something happened in shipping.

I have 4/3 yes.

Honestly the best fertility is letting them free choose partners, but I know a lot of breeders that will do 1:1 or do 2:1 and have a gander only pen for things you don't want to mate.


One of my ganders is only 4 months old so he's a baby still, and clueless.

The other two ganders (Buff/Grey SB Split Buff), are mating each one has a lavender, and the grey/blue sb I have aren't letting them mate yet. The Blue SB had a heavy molt so she's still growing feathers, and the other grey is about 7 months old so i'm not sure if she will skip or hit a late egg laying season.

My hopes next year is to have the following 7 pens -

2 Full Whites
1 Grey/Grey SB
1 Lavender
1 Buff/Lilac/Cream
1 Full/Solid Grey
1 Sick/Gander Pen

I also have cameras up so I know mating, and stuff and track it daily. Of course if something pops out randomly I will know if it's from the grey SB boy or Buff, but my buff has paired off specifically with one girl, and the SB boy is not picky at all lol.

I do like to let them choose but saw some upsetting behavior this morning where 2 ganders joined up to exclude my gray boy from his mate to steal her away. One "ushered" the gray away while the other stole his lady. Soooo sad to watch. I am such a softy!

I usually use IQ bird for DNA but also used Silkie lab for this batch.

 

[Pumperkinz]

I do like to let them choose but saw some upsetting behavior this morning where 2 ganders joined up to exclude my gray boy from his mate to steal her away. One "ushered" the gray away while the other stole his lady. Soooo sad to watch. I am such a softy!

I usually use IQ bird for DNA but also used Silkie lab for this batch.

Sometimes the boys are jerks.

I heard screaming earlier, the buff saw one of his lavenders get stolen from him and he's screaming and the whole flock of girls is surrounding screaming.

The youngest gander was too - and he's just clueless lol.

Yeah my buff boy lost one of his mates this year so I like to let him pick and choose whatever he wants. The other ganders will get last dibs and if I see bullying separate pens you go! At least at night lol.