What do you think is the best approach to MY predator problem?

TheMatador

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Hi all,
A chicken newbie here. I've had 5 guineas and 20 chickens since May and am now having a predator problem that I feel is on the verge of getting out of hand.

The first day I let my guineas range I lost one. She wouldn't stay with the flock, insisted on flying off into a thick hedgerow and would not rejoin the group. I couldn't get her out to secure her in the coop and she did not live through the night (Houdini, RIP). No feathers or carcass to be found but its very thick brush where she was, so who knows. A few weeks later, another guinea got picked off while they ranged in heavy brush in the middle of the day while we were not at home (Home Slice, RIP). Again, no feathers or carcass, but who knows.

The whole gang ranges all day everyday, whether we are at home or not and all was quiet until this weekend. At dusk the crew automatically jumps in the coop, I round up and stragglers, do a head count and lock them in tight for the evening. This weekend I had to be somewhere to be and could not get the kids in the coop before I had to leave. I figured they'd be fine and I'd shut the door when I got home. Big mistake. I lost a buff and silver cochin and based on where I found feathers I believe everyone had piled in for the night as usual and something came INTO the coop and dragged them out (Zombie Chicken and Fancy Pants, RIP). Terrible. I could barely get the rest to go into the coop last night as they all must be traumatized. Anyway, no carcasses but feathers at the coop door, a larger pile about 20 yards away where they must have been dispatched and then a trail off down a trail to a field. I live in an area where pretty much any predator is a possibility and I know I have possum, coyotes, hawks, fisher (or at least a hearty weasel), fox, and very possibly a bob cat.

So my question is: What do you think is the best way to approach this? I fear that the coop has now been identified as a buffet and some critter has plans to clean me out. Farmer friends of mine had a fox problem earlier this year and were losing chickens every night and even in broad daylight before a neighbor "took care" of it. What do you think would be the single most effective FIRST approach to take.

Should I immediately begin the search for an appropriate dog?

Should I first concentrate on fencing (not sure I can afford the set up I think my problem requires)?

Should I attempt to trap and relocate said varmints?

Should I get guard geese or peacocks or some such?


There's a ton of great info here on the forum that I have poured through. I'd just like to know what some of you more experienced folks think is best for a guy in my predicament. Thanks!
 
First you need to identify the preditor. Sprinkle flour around the chicken coop and then put the birds on lock down. Check for tracks in the morning. This will let you know what you are dealing with.

You will deal with raccoons with a trap, if it is a mountain lion or a bear that is another story.

Do not try to relocate them. Don't make your problem someone else's problem. If you use a leg hold trap, shoot it. If you use a live trap, baptise the critter in a barrel of water.

What ever you do, be very cautions. Don't let it bite you.

Rufus
 
Should I attempt to trap and relocate said varmints?

In most states it's illegal to possess and transport wildlife, and "relocating" is just putting the problem on someone else.

You also risk spreading diseases. It's best to kill predators.​
 
Here we go folks. Can't find my darned scat and track ID book. Any guesses? I'm in Upstate, NY by the way. Southern edge of the Adirondack mountains. That should help rule out Tasmanian Devils or Siberian Lynx.

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So as I'm researching tracks I believe I have learned that a fox track has 4 toes and a fisher has 5 (both are good candidates to be the predator based on reports from neighbors).

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in this photo it looks like the track to the far left very clearly has 4 toes. all the rest look like there may be 5, but they are a bit trampled. I'll go look at the tracks more closely before they blow/wash away and decide if I think there are 4 or 5.
 
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I have a coon in a live trap right now, waiting for my son to get home from football practice. Why drowning and not a .22?

Personally I am a wimp and a softee, but I know that relocation is a bad idea. I guess that is why have have a hubby and two boys!
 
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I want to say fox, as it would be a pretty likely predator. But after re-examining the tracks I feel more confident (not totally) that there are 5 toes. Also the crescent shape of the pad looks more weasel like and less fox like. The problem is that the impressions are pretty crappy. I don't know if I should have put down more or less flour.

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