what does splash do to red/gold? lacing?

[slackwater]

Okay, so I've been learneded in Andalusian blue genetics - but what will that splash, if bred to a red or a laced bird, do to the red/gold and/or lacing?

 

[Goose and Fig]

Splash pretty much turns everything blue. I'm not up on the lacing genetics- but splash x BLR = all blue and splash (solid)

 

[blackdotte]

Nothing, Splash has no effect on gold/red tones. It only has an effect of black, turning it blue. So a gold/red bird with black lacing will become a gold/red bird with blue lacing.
David

 

[Crunchie]

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I think maybe you are misunderstanding Casey's question. I think what she is asking is: If you breed a solid splash bird to a laced red bird (I assume blue laced red), what happens? (which is you get all blue & splash birds). When I read your response, the way I understand it you are saying is, basically, you get blue laced red if you breed a splash (solid) bird to a gold laced (black laced red) one...but I think you are reading her question as meaning a splash laced bird (e.g., a blue-laced red Wyandotte that is laced in splash) bred to a black laced bird gives you all blue-laced red? I know you know more about genetics than I do.

So I think you are misreading her question.

I wish it was as simple as breeding a splash bird to gold laced to get blue laced red. Then I'd have blue laced red Polish.

 

[slackwater]

Maria,

You are correct. I actually am thinking of working towards BLR cochins

I've got the blue part down pat, but from what I understand, breeding a solid (even a splash solid) to a laced will negate the laced...but I would get blue in there somewhere. Maybe. I'm trying to track down a good chicken genetics book

If solid is dominant over laced and splash dilutes black to blue...then what WOULD I get if I crossed a solid splash with a gold laced (black laced red)? Would the black turn to blue, and the red turn to...? Or would the whole bird be blue? Or some funky non-color?

And then I guess some breed-backs would be in order to pull out recessive genes.

 

[Crunchie]

If you bred a splash bird to a gold laced bird, you'd get blues--solid ones. Though I imagine, genetically, that might be "messy" (in that you wouldn't want to breed those solid blues with the intent of breeding blues). I don't really understand pattern genes that well, so I don't know what you'd have to do to get the red & the lacing back into the picture.

 

[Goose and Fig]

The f1s might be split for lacing - the same way birds can be split for mottlling. Then I think if you breed the f1s back to the original laced bird (or another laced bird), you might get laced offspring then. But- like I said before- I'm not too familiar with how the lacing genes work.

 

[slackwater]

Yeah, working this through in my widdle mind...solid splash x golden laced = splash poss w/lacing and/or red "covered"; if I then bred the F1 back to GL, it might bring the recessives back out, hopefully without negating the splash. Dunno yet. It will be worth playing with, I guess

 

[catwalk]

I just checked it out on the calculator: breed a gold laced to a splash, and all offspring should be blue. Breed back to the laced parent, and a couple should approach what you want. It would go faster if you had a flock of each, splash and gold laced, and put the opposite roo in with the girls. That way all the offspring has a laced bird to breed back to. A pretty suprise that the calculator spit out is blue patterned silver laced

 

[slackwater]

Thanks so much! It's nice to know that I'm at least on the right track, though it will obviously take me a while to get there...

Is this calculator online? In a book? Or is it something you just happen to have?