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I agree.Does the black one have a white head spot? If so, it is a Barred Cochin. If not it is a Black Cochin. And does the second one have muffs/puffy cheeks? If it does, then it is a Mille Fleur Belgian Bearded D'Uccle. If it doesn't, it is a Cochin of an unknown variety (to me, at least).