My Africans are great around my kids (they are loud, though we don't mind), but my pilgrim gander has always been bad. I am trying to teach him, but he is still very aggressive. I have debated getting rid of my pair of pilgrims. Anyone on here live near Shreveport or Texarkana and want to trade? I have raised them from 1 day-old this spring, and they pen up great every night, but boy I get tired of him making my kids cry, DD2, DD6, and DD8. It doesn't seem as frequent now, so maybe they are learning, but if it hasn't stopped by Christmas we may be having Christmas goose for dinner!