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[shadow rabbit10]

I've been searching for a "rabbit forum" and never thought to look on the misc thread for a rabbit group. I used to breed/raise holland lops when I was younger, now I'm a mom of two and I've decided to add a pair for my kids to raise. (Even though, you know right now who's goign to be doing all the raising. ;-) ) Here are pics of the two we got about a week ago.

Are there any breeders on here that could help with holland lop coloring if I post a pic of 5 kits that were born about 8 days ago?

The first one is definitely a Harlequin coloring, but appears to be a pure Holland Lop! I have never seen that color, but I am not very familiar with project colors. The one on the bottom is very cute!

 

[inthesticks]

I've been searching for a "rabbit forum" and never thought to look on the misc thread for a rabbit group. I used to breed/raise holland lops when I was younger, now I'm a mom of two and I've decided to add a pair for my kids to raise. (Even though, you know right now who's goign to be doing all the raising. ;-) ) Here are pics of the two we got about a week ago.

Are there any breeders on here that could help with holland lop coloring if I post a pic of 5 kits that were born about 8 days ago?

the lighting in the picture you posted does make it kind of hard. The two lighter ones..are they a cream color or grayish white. Could be sable points but depending on their lines, they could go through a little bit of a color change as they mature. I had one, that now that he is about 5mths old, who's back grew in a darker gray color in his V line (MM Lionhead) they are all adorable none the less - could make some beautiful colored offspring if that's what you intend on doing with them and your family.

 

[Lynzi777]

The first one is definitely a Harlequin coloring, but appears to be a pure Holland Lop! I have never seen that color, but I am not very familiar with project colors. The one on the bottom is very cute!

Thanks, but these aren't the ones I had in question. I know what I have with these two - a harlequin and black tort. I was wondering if anyone knew about the pic of the 5 kits I posted. I guess I should have posted two seperate posts. LOL I will try to post a better picture of them.

 

[Lynzi777]

the lighting in the picture you posted does make it kind of hard. The two lighter ones..are they a cream color or grayish white. Could be sable points but depending on their lines, they could go through a little bit of a color change as they mature. I had one, that now that he is about 5mths old, who's back grew in a darker gray color in his V line (MM Lionhead) they are all adorable none the less - could make some beautiful colored offspring if that's what you intend on doing with them and your family.

Yes they are a lighter creamy color. We think that may end up looking like the mom who was a chinchilla, but not gray chin more of a brown chin. The father was a sable point.

 

[Minniechickmama]

The bigger one is a Black Tort? I thought it looked Blue.
Get better pics of the babies. I like the heads on those two you got! Not excessive, but good crown on them. My daughter has a pair she will be breeding soon, a Broken Tort and a Sable Point. I am excited to see what she gets out of them. She did very well at our fair, in the top 10 with her doe, the Broken. Peter didn't go, he picked up a bit of the sneezes with the hot weather and he stayed home.

 

[Lynzi777]

Yes she is a black tort - she was one of 5 I believe, there was one blue tort out of the group that I actually wanted but it was a buck and I was looking for 2 does.
I was actually just looking more closely at their heads/crowns today and thought Wow, the crown on the black tort is beautiful now that her ears are staying down more. They fall right beside her eyes. She's definitely got nice shape to her.

 

[Lynzi777]

The mother of the litter looks something like this, a lighter chinchilla...



So we are leaning towards her coloring for the lighter ones.
Here is a closer pic of one of the lighter ones...

 

[shadow rabbit10]

They could be Sable Point.

 

[inthesticks]

If they had 3 bands of color on one hair then they are agouti. All those buns are so cute btw

 

[Bunnylady]

The mother of the litter looks something like this, a lighter chinchilla...


This rabbit is not a chinchilla, it's a chestnut. There is no yellow/red pigment in a chin's hairs, so it doesn't look brown at all - more of a salt-and-pepper gray (although it's supposed to be even, being really salt-and-peppery is a fault in chins!).
So we are leaning towards her coloring for the lighter ones.
Here is a closer pic of one of the lighter ones...




Off the top, I would say this bunny looks most like a Siamese Sable Agouti. See how the inside of the ear is white, and there is a white line around the nostril? Those are agouti markings, as is the fact that the body hairs are banded or ticked with color. This is not a showable color, btw. It's also a bit of a nuisance, because a lot of people have trouble telling it from a true Chin or Frosted, which have Chinchilla genes, and are showable colors. It's always a bit annoying and embarrassing to enter a rabbit in a show, only to have a judge DQ it for something that is clearly visible.

About the harlequin - yes, Hollands do come in harlequin, although it isn't and probably never will be a showable color. The version that is showable is Tricolor, which is a rabbit with both the harlequin pattern and the broken pattern. Tricolor is showable in most of the lop breeds. The reason that harlequin isn't, is because the ARBA standards committee would insist on a harlequin lop having the same checkerboard pattern that is required in the Harlequin breed, a thing that Harlequin breeders can tell you happens only every once in a while. Also, there is the matter of the Tricolors. As things stand now, Tris only need to have some orange and some black in whatever colored areas their particular take on the broken pattern gives them. If the Tri were seen as "the broken version of a harlequin rabbit" they might be required to have one dark ear, one light ear, etc, etc, in the harlequin pattern, which I suspect may be impossible. I do the Tri's in Mini Rex, and although I have had some fairly good checkerboard patterns show up in the solid harlequin MR's, every Tri MR I have ever owned only had small spots of black and orange, like the Rhinelanders have. I suspect (but have no proof) that there may be some interplay with the broken gene that prevents the harlequin pattern from being expressed in large patches in rabbits that have both broken and harlie genes.