I think they are mixes also but, the one in the second photo is a beautiful pullet - no matter what breed she is. You can also post at "what breed or gender is this," it is helpful to know how old they are in the pictures.
Thank you everyone for the help x
The chickens are about 14 weeks old
I have lavender pekins and sablepoots which are 10 weeks and I can tell what gender they are but the older ones I can't any way thank you for everyone help and yes( mymillefleurs) i think he is a black copper maran