what type of pigeon is this?

[decomposed]

my sister found this pigeon when he was still a baby he was wandering around a shopping center calling for his mum so i have kept him with my new baby chickens and now they are good friends and he wont leave lol he flew out the window and i thought he took off but it turns out he just flew into my back yard to be with the chickens so i let them all sleep in my laundry room at night i've been trying to find out what kind he is but there is a lot of types of pigeons so im not sure would anyone be able to tell me? and does it look like a male or female?

 

[Pigeon Power]

Looks like a new york flying flight to me or "flight" as I called them when I was a kid. MY 1st pair of show pigeons were flights....could be a mix, homer and wild pigeon or a flight and a wild pigeon as well...As for sex, you can not tell by looking at it...You can only tell by behavior and you need another pigeon for that. Even so you would have to wait awhile for it to hit sexual maturity, from the pics I can tell it is not old enough for that. Eyes need to lighten and the fuzz needs to be gone...Around the time they get their adult voice instead of the squeaks. Is when you would want to get another "known male" and see what happens! If they fight its another male if the male (known male) does the courting dance then female.

 

[decomposed]

ah righto thanks for the info i thought they might be like ducks and roosters where the males have bigger chests but i was wrong lol i will have to look for some friends for it is there anything special to feed them that makes them nice colored and shiny? his feathers look a bit dull at the moment and i don't think he is very water proof i'm not sure if they are supposed to look like that or if i'm not feeding it the right thing i just give it the same grains that my chickens and ducks eat and shell grit

 

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That is not a New York Flying Flight. That is a homing pigeon or just a pigeon of feral descent. Which happen to have some primary flight feathers white.

 

[Abdulbaki Mazic]

you guys blind or what this is a feral pigeon!

 

[Pigeon Power]

Sorry but do you have any idea how many domestic pigeons get loose and mate with the local population of feral birds.....I can't even image, so its not a far stretch to say this this a mix of something. From my experience any time I breed a check or a bar they have checks or bars only. Because of the color I say its mixed with something domestic and because beak, body shape, I said flight or homer. Those breeds are also very very common and are flown a lot world wide. Thus are more likely to end up mixing with local population. These are just the things it could be or that are most likely any how in my opinion. It could be like everyone else seems to think just start up feral, however I tend to look on the bright side! I say mix! However it really just doesn't matter..They make fun pets either way and the little guys not going to be wining any shows.(Although very pretty indeed, some of the best looking birds are mixes)
After they loose the pin feathers they are still have a lot of "dust" and stuff coming off them...So the feather might yet shine up and become more water resistant(of course not as much as say a duck). I would dust and worm. As well as give grit...They can eat just song bird or wild dove seed mix...They do make special pigeon pellets but I don't recommend that unless you have many pigeons...So people feed them game bird food or chicken food and that seems to do well for them!

 

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you guys blind or what this is a feral pigeon!

Do you even know what a feral pigeon is? It's not a wild pigeon... It's a pigeon of domestic descent which have gone feral. The vast majority of any given feral is going to be homing pigeon if not pure... Feral is not a breed of pigeon. Feral is a condition in which a pigeon lives.


As for it being mixed with a flight I don't think that at all. And New York Flying Flights are only common in the New York area. Flights are the only breed I work with. I have seen a flight mixes and this doesn't look like. The beak looks like a normal homer beak. White flight are found in tons of breeds. The flying flight white I believe to be a recessive gene anyways and shouldn't show up normally in an initial cross.

 

[Abdulbaki Mazic]

Do you even know what a feral pigeon is? It's not a wild pigeon... It's a pigeon of domestic descent which have gone feral. The vast majority of any given feral is going to be homing pigeon if not pure... Feral is not a breed of pigeon. Feral is a condition in which a pigeon lives.


As for it being mixed with a flight I don't think that at all. And New York Flying Flights are only common in the New York area. Flights are the only breed I work with. I have seen a flight mixes and this doesn't look like. The beak looks like a normal homer beak. White flight are found in tons of breeds. The flying flight white I believe to be a recessive gene anyways and shouldn't show up normally in an initial cross.

This pigeon btw is a young one so why in your Opinion do you think it is not a feral / rock pigeon?
I would go for a homer, it could be a scrawny strain ... ,and the white flights DO EXSIST in the homing breed

 

[Pigeon Power]

I must say I didn't know the lingo of feral and wild! Thank you! I guess I never really put that much thought into it. The reason New York Flying flight came to mind because again, I had many (by many I mean my loft was kind of infested) with New York flying flights when I was a kid So around 15 years ago! They were a common breed out here in Indiana at that time...and seeing how it is Indiana I figured if the breed was common here it would be most any where else...lol! Anyways this bird looked like a few I had Flights I mean. Thats why that came to mind. However I'm not sure how pure my line was and I haven't seen the breed around at local shows for at least 8 years or so....now that I think about it....However are shows are very small out here....Maybe since I live so close to the big national show (only 3 hours away!) someone brought the breed in and it got popular for awhile. Anyways sounds like you are very familiar to the breed, and I take my hat off to you!
The poor original poster must think we are all nuts for making such a fuss over their bird! I do find these guessing games fun, as long as people are kind. And it's always neat to hear what people have to say and what they come up with

 

[Abdulbaki Mazic]

I must say I didn't know the lingo of feral and wild! Thank you! I guess I never really put that much thought into it. The reason New York Flying flight came to mind because again, I had many (by many I mean my loft was kind of infested) with New York flying flights when I was a kid So around 15 years ago! They were a common breed out here in Indiana at that time...and seeing how it is Indiana I figured if the breed was common here it would be most any where else...lol! Anyways this bird looked like a few I had Flights I mean. Thats why that came to mind. However I'm not sure how pure my line was and I haven't seen the breed around at local shows for at least 8 years or so....now that I think about it....However are shows are very small out here....Maybe since I live so close to the big national show (only 3 hours away!) someone brought the breed in and it got popular for awhile. Anyways sounds like you are very familiar to the breed, and I take my hat off to you!
The poor original poster must think we are all nuts for making such a fuss over their bird! I do find these guessing games fun, as long as people are kind. And it's always neat to hear what people have to say and what they come up with

Well, said man