What's the genetic Phenotype is this chick's down color pattern?

From the Parents pic and sibling pic I will describe the possible grand parents genetic make up and the actual parent genetic make up and the chick's genetic make up.

both parents are gold based(s+/s+ for male and s+/- for female) from the looks of the parents in the pic, they seem to be a cross of a gold based cuckoo rooster(most likely cuckoo maran) and a buff Orp hen, the cuckoo marans are Extended black at the e locus(E/E), Buff Orps are wheaten(eWh/eWh) buff orps also cary many Columbian restrictors(like Co and possible Db which stands for dark brown) gold diluters(like Di and Cb), those are the Grand Parents, the parents are E/eWh(pseudo birchen), s+/s+, Co/co+ and sex linked Barring(the dame has only one copy of sex linked barring B/- and the sire only copy of sex linked barring B/b+) When you make the cross you will get Extended Black chicks(E/E 25%) Wheaten Chicks(yellow chicks 25%) and E/eWh chicks(50%) this cross is somewhat sex linked, meaning that if you get a solid dark chick without a headspot you can bet 100% that the chick is a pullet, but she will also have barred sisters, but 100% of the male chicks will be barred/cuckoo(50% will be homozygous barred B/B, and 50% will be heterozygous barred B/b+), the thing is you can't tell the barring on wheaten based chicks(eWh/eWh) at hatch.


The brown looking chick on the picture is a pullet: E/eWh, s+/-, b+/-, most likely Db(for dark brown), when grown she will resemble her mother but without barring perhaps more gold colored, almost black tailed
 
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From the Parents pic and sibling pic I will describe the possible grand parents genetic make up and the actual parent genetic make up and the chick's genetic make up.

both parents are gold based(s+/s+ for male and s+/- for female) from the looks of the parents in the pic, they seem to be a cross of a gold based cuckoo rooster(most likely cuckoo maran) and a buff Orp hen, the cuckoo marans are Extended black at the e locus(E/E), Buff Orps are wheaten(eWh/eWh) buff orps also cary many Columbian restrictors(like Co and possible Db which stands for dark brown) gold diluters(like Di and Cb), those are the Grand Parents, the parents are E/eWh(pseudo birchen), s+/s+, Co/co+ and sex linked Barring(the dame has only one copy of sex linked barring B/- and the sire only copy of sex linked barring B/b+) When you make the cross you will get Extended Black chicks(E/E 25%) Wheaten Chicks(yellow chicks 25%) and E/eWh chicks(50%) this cross is somewhat sex linked, meaning that if you get a solid dark chick without a headspot you can bet 100% that the chick is a pullet, but she will also have barred sisters, but 100% of the male chicks will be barred/cuckoo(50% will be homozygous barred B/B, and 50% will be heterozygous barred B/b+), the thing is you can't tell the barring on wheaten based chicks(eWh/eWh) at hatch.


The brown looking chick on the picture is a pullet: E/eWh, s+/-, b+/-, most likely Db(for dark brown), when grown she will resemble her mother but without barring perhaps more gold colored, almost black tailed
Where did Cuckoo Marans come in?
The parents of the parents above, the barring genes came from Barred Rock.
 
From the Parents pic and sibling pic I will describe the possible grand parents genetic make up and the actual parent genetic make up and the chick's genetic make up.

both parents are gold based(s+/s+ for male and s+/- for female) from the looks of the parents in the pic, they seem to be a cross of a gold based cuckoo rooster(most likely cuckoo maran) and a buff Orp hen, the cuckoo marans are Extended black at the e locus(E/E), Buff Orps are wheaten(eWh/eWh) buff orps also cary many Columbian restrictors(like Co and possible Db which stands for dark brown) gold diluters(like Di and Cb), those are the Grand Parents, the parents are E/eWh(pseudo birchen), s+/s+, Co/co+ and sex linked Barring(the dame has only one copy of sex linked barring B/- and the sire only copy of sex linked barring B/b+) When you make the cross you will get Extended Black chicks(E/E 25%) Wheaten Chicks(yellow chicks 25%) and E/eWh chicks(50%) this cross is somewhat sex linked, meaning that if you get a solid dark chick without a headspot you can bet 100% that the chick is a pullet, but she will also have barred sisters, but 100% of the male chicks will be barred/cuckoo(50% will be homozygous barred B/B, and 50% will be heterozygous barred B/b+), the thing is you can't tell the barring on wheaten based chicks(eWh/eWh) at hatch.


The brown looking chick on the picture is a pullet: E/eWh, s+/-, b+/-, most likely Db(for dark brown), when grown she will resemble her mother but without barring perhaps more gold colored, almost black tailed
The chicks with no headspot didn't inherit the barring genes.
 
My chicks with black body, & colored faces are able to be sexed by face coloration. Headspot has no meaning unless certain genes weren't inherited.

Male, Chocolate face: He's the father pictured.
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Females: Blonde faces, sometimes with mask around eyes.
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Chick pictures of the mother is on my other phone.
 
Both parents are:
Buff Orpington/Barred X Buff Orpington/Australorp.
I can agree with the Sire parent's(Buff Orp male x Barred Rock female), but the dame of those chicks is clearly barred and gold, how is she both barred and gold? Her sire would have to be both barred and gold at the same time and Barred Rocks are Silver and Barred. Since both were gold and barred(the parents of the chicks) I thought there were siblings
 
I can agree with the Sire parent's(Buff Orp male x Barred Rock female), but the dame of those chicks is clearly barred and gold, how is she both barred and gold? Her sire would have to be both barred and gold at the same time and Barred Rocks are Silver and Barred
The father of the sire, & dame was silver, & barred with gold leakage.

The mother of the sire, & dame was Buff, & black.

Is it possible my Buff Orpingtons are hiding partridge genes? It's the only thing I think of the color of the dame would be possible.
 
The yellow chick is Wheaten, & a cockerel.
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He has the black head stripe. They're 1 week old now, & abit slow to grow.
 

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