when is the TILTON, NH swap?

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Geez what century are you all from ? You need to get a "man bag", come on get with it! Tee Hee
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yes, is it a murse?

Don't know, but if it has a name that would get my vote!
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How is your Salmon Faverolle?
 
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yes, is it a murse?

Don't know, but if it has a name that would get my vote!
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How is your Salmon Faverolle?

she is up and around, so thats good, thought she would have been dead this morning, but she is looking better.

had looked in the chicken health handbook and they suggest thiamin for weak legs
anyone know what has a high amount of thiamin in it?
 
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Don't know, but if it has a name that would get my vote!
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How is your Salmon Faverolle?

she is up and around, so thats good, thought she would have been dead this morning, but she is looking better.

had looked in the chicken health handbook and they suggest thiamin for weak legs
anyone know what has a high amount of thiamin in it?

If memory serves me right....Thiamin is vitamin B1 maybe you could find that in a gelcap or pill and add it to her diet.


ETA:Just found this online.......Thiamine (vitamin B1) helps the body cells convert carbohydrates into energy. It is also essential for the functioning of the heart, muscles, and nervous system.

Thiamine is found in fortified breads, cereals, pasta, whole grains (especially wheat germ), lean meats (especially pork), fish, dried beans, peas, and soybeans.
 
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Don't know, but if it has a name that would get my vote!
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How is your Salmon Faverolle?

she is up and around, so thats good, thought she would have been dead this morning, but she is looking better.

had looked in the chicken health handbook and they suggest thiamin for weak legs
anyone know what has a high amount of thiamin in it?

I found this, hope it helps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiamine
[edit] Thiamine deficiency in poultry
As most feedstuffs used in poultry diets contain enough quantities of vitamins to meet the requirements in this species, deficiencies in this vitamin does not occur with commercial diets. This was, at least, the opinion in the 1960s.[42]

Mature chickens show signs 3 weeks after being fed a deficient diet. In young chicks, it can appear before 2 weeks of age.

Onset is sudden in young chicks. There is anorexia and an unsteady gait. Later on, there are locomotor signs, beginning with an apparent paralysis of the flexor ot the toes. The characteristic position is called "stargazing", meaning a chick "sitting on its hocks and the head in opisthotonos.

Response to administration of the vitamin is rather quick, occurring a few hours later.[43][44]

Differential diagnosis include riboflavin deficiency and avian encephalomyelitis. In riboflavin deficiency, the "curled toes" is a characteristic symptom. Muscle tremor is typical of avian encephalomyelitis. A therapeutic diagnosis can be tried by supplementing Vitamin B1 only in the affected bird. If the animals do not respond in a few hours, Vitamin B1 deficiency can be excluded.​
 
Wendy get a multi VitB gel cap and give her the popped liquid.
IF you think this might be the problem , but honestly I would wait it out and see if it repairs its self. before medicating.

too much meds create more problems than they solve.
 
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she is up and around, so thats good, thought she would have been dead this morning, but she is looking better.

had looked in the chicken health handbook and they suggest thiamin for weak legs
anyone know what has a high amount of thiamin in it?

I found this, hope it helps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiamine
[edit] Thiamine deficiency in poultry
As most feedstuffs used in poultry diets contain enough quantities of vitamins to meet the requirements in this species, deficiencies in this vitamin does not occur with commercial diets. This was, at least, the opinion in the 1960s.[42]

Mature chickens show signs 3 weeks after being fed a deficient diet. In young chicks, it can appear before 2 weeks of age.

Onset is sudden in young chicks. There is anorexia and an unsteady gait. Later on, there are locomotor signs, beginning with an apparent paralysis of the flexor ot the toes. The characteristic position is called "stargazing", meaning a chick "sitting on its hocks and the head in opisthotonos.

Response to administration of the vitamin is rather quick, occurring a few hours later.[43][44]

Differential diagnosis include riboflavin deficiency and avian encephalomyelitis. In riboflavin deficiency, the "curled toes" is a characteristic symptom. Muscle tremor is typical of avian encephalomyelitis. A therapeutic diagnosis can be tried by supplementing Vitamin B1 only in the affected bird. If the animals do not respond in a few hours, Vitamin B1 deficiency can be excluded.​

i always thought they get what they need from the feed
 
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she is up and around, so thats good, thought she would have been dead this morning, but she is looking better.

had looked in the chicken health handbook and they suggest thiamin for weak legs
anyone know what has a high amount of thiamin in it?

I found this, hope it helps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiamine
[edit] Thiamine deficiency in poultry
As most feedstuffs used in poultry diets contain enough quantities of vitamins to meet the requirements in this species, deficiencies in this vitamin does not occur with commercial diets. This was, at least, the opinion in the 1960s.[42]

Mature chickens show signs 3 weeks after being fed a deficient diet. In young chicks, it can appear before 2 weeks of age.

Onset is sudden in young chicks. There is anorexia and an unsteady gait. Later on, there are locomotor signs, beginning with an apparent paralysis of the flexor ot the toes. The characteristic position is called "stargazing", meaning a chick "sitting on its hocks and the head in opisthotonos.

Response to administration of the vitamin is rather quick, occurring a few hours later.[43][44]

Differential diagnosis include riboflavin deficiency and avian encephalomyelitis. In riboflavin deficiency, the "curled toes" is a characteristic symptom. Muscle tremor is typical of avian encephalomyelitis. A therapeutic diagnosis can be tried by supplementing Vitamin B1 only in the affected bird. If the animals do not respond in a few hours, Vitamin B1 deficiency can be excluded.​

i always thought they get what they need from the feed

that is true of commercial diets but there are many people that mix their own chicken food so without asking if this person does, it can't be ruled out. there are also things in the diet that can cause thiamine to bound up chemically and not be able to be used by the body.
that's part of the reason I attached a link to the entire article.
it discusses all this including how it relates to people and chickens.
you can't give too much vit B, you just pee out what you don't need.
 
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