Where/How to buy syringes for Tylan 200 injections?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by nkacerek, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. nkacerek

    nkacerek Out Of The Brooder

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    My flock like many out there are exhibiting signs of sneezing and runny noses and seems to be spreading quickly.

    I have 12 hens I started yesterday on poly vi sol (non iron) 3 drops and a few drops of vet rx

    Also added both to waterer

    After researching on here, I went out and purchased the big bottle of Tylan 200 at TSC for $29.99 last night, just in case haven't opened it yet!

    However, I have read people on here get the best results by injecting 1/4 - 1/2 cc per bird in the breast for three days

    Where/How do I obtain syringes to do this?

    Do I need a new one for each bird, if not how to sanitize?

    If I cannot get syringes, my other option is 1cc (1mL) down the gullet for three days as other folks have had luck with on here.

    What is the time spacing between doses? 12 hours, 24 hrs, 48 hours?

    Thanks so much for your help!
     
  2. Judy

    Judy Moderator Staff Member

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    TSC didn't have any? Our feed store keeps several sizes of both, separately, and they're cheap.
     
  3. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I buy syringes at the feed store, but I do not treat for respiratory illness (well, haven't had any and won't treat if it pops up anyway due to the carrier status of most recovered birds). I keep syringes on hand for injecting penicillin in case of an infected injury and I've always been able to find them at every feed store in my area. Needles are usually separate and I use a 22 gauge.


    Sneezing can be environmental like too much ammonia at their level. And slight clear discharge isn't usually a problem--they can do that when they dunk their beaks in the water. You didn't say if it was clear or snotty. You're not sure if you're even treating something bacterial, either. If it's viral, antibiotics won't do any good, same as humans. Get down at their level and stir around the shavings and take a big whiff to check ammonia.
     
  4. leenie

    leenie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You can purchase syringes at any pharmacy. No script needed but it will be a diabetic supply amount. Not sure how small a quantity boxes come in.
     
  5. nkacerek

    nkacerek Out Of The Brooder

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    I will check the ammonia level at their level, and if needed, clean out the coop, sanitize with bleach solution, and put down fresh shavings.

    But, can't the fresh shavings also be responsible for sneezing and similar symptoms?

    I know I only have a few days to get to the bottom of this before I lose one so I want to make the right decision here or else I will feel horrible that I didn't do all that I could...

    Their run is also a muddy mess from the melting snow so I'm thinking about filling that with pea gravel then all purpose sand to keep things cleaner out there this weekend...

    I just found it weird that one started sneezing now the majority seems to be sneezing too

    When I was holding them crouched down and held in between my legs for the vitamins (hard to do with one person) some of their respiration seemed wheezy but could be the way I held them

    Also when I gave the liquid vitamins and vet rx some of them were barking afterwards...is this normal and they just need a drink?

    After drinking water seems like they sneeze then shake their head a little

    Do some people just choose not to treat and let nature run its course? I don't plan on adding or removing any and can't bear the thought to cull.

    Thanks again!
     
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  6. nkacerek

    nkacerek Out Of The Brooder

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    No feed stores sell syringes or needles...must the the state of nj

    I guess I will try and find some in the diabetic section of the pharmacy but have a feeling i wont have any luck there either due to state regulations

    If I do obtain syringes/needles, do I use a new one for each hen or just sanitize in between? If so, how?
     
  7. Desert Rooster

    Desert Rooster El Gallo Del Desierto

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    i bought some tylan 50 last week from the feed store and they gave me 2 syringes for free
     
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  8. justmeandtheflock

    justmeandtheflock Overrun with ducklings :)

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    You can't buy them in NJ. You have to get them from a Dr. or a vet. You can buy them at any feed store in PA but I have no idea what the laws are for bringing them into the state.
     
  9. nkacerek

    nkacerek Out Of The Brooder

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    Had a feeling that was the case here. Looks like I will be trying to get the Tylan powder to mix in their water instead. Thanks everyone!
     
  10. FrenchToast

    FrenchToast "Draft Apple Ridge" a Bit from Heaven

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    Quote:I think if you use Tylan 200 you will need to cut that dosage into quarters. My understanding is 1/4-1/2cc per bird of Tylan 50. Tylan 200 is 4 times stronger. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong.
    You can get the diabetic syringes in various sizes. They would be eaiser to measure the smaller dosage.
    That bottle will last you a lifetime plus. If you decide to use it maybe see if they have the Tylan 100 or Tylan 50.
    I ordered Tylan 50 from Jeffers.com for $8.35. My feed stores don't carry the Tylan 50 and I checked all over.
    First State Vet also carries it as well as Twin City Poultry online.
    You would think that if you buy vaccines they they would send a few syringes along with it.
    By the way FYI if you order $49.00 or more from the Livestock section of Jeffers there is no shipping charge. I just ordered the Marecks vaccine but they charge a FOB charge of 2lbs for each of them. In my case ordering two bottles was $12.34 for shipping. No additional charge for all the other items.

    Sorry got off topic here.
    As for sterilizing, what I have heard you can do is: When you are done with the injection rinse the syringe by drawing up clear water and squiring it out thru the needle a few times to rinse the needle. Then pour some rubbing alcohol in a small cup (just enough for each use, do not pour back into bottle when done). Draw up a syringe full of alcohol, squirt thru needle again. Draw up another syringe full of alcohol. Leave in syringe. Then take the cap from the needle and fill with the alcohol. put the needle in the cap and put end cover on after pouring alcohol in cover. This should keep the needle sterile until the next injection.
    You will have to do this for each needle. Don't use either of the used (from using on chickens) needles to withdraw the medicine from the bottle. Preferably use a new needle everytime you poke into the bottle. If you don't have a new needle then have one needle just for drawing out the vaccine or medicine but keep it sterilized as well. When You draw up into the syringe and you are using a needle that has been stored in alcohol remember to only draw back on the plunger, never push any medicine/vaccine back into the bottle as there would be trace amounts of alcohol. Better to waste some of the meds than to pollute the whole bottle. What you shoul do to rinse the syringe completely of alcohol discard the first syinge full of meds/vaccine, making sure you squirt thru needle as well. Then draw up a new amount that you are going to use.
    Hope this makes sense as this is what I remember reading on another site in the past. Couldn't find it so this is coming straight from my memory (which isn't all that good sometimes)
    As far as using the same needle on all of the hens, guess that would be a personal choice, best to use seperate needles but that is alot of needles and you will be treating for several days. I would draw up enough solution as the syringe would hold and only use the same needle on visibly sick hens and another needle on no symptom hens. Remember to use the non chicken used needle to draw up more med/vaccine and don't forget to switch the needle back when you inject.
    This sounds like alot of monkeying around but if you have no other choice what can you do???
    Seems like it would work if you don't have access to new needles.
    I use the diabetic needles that I get from Walmart. You have to ask for them at the pharmacy counter. They are under $.20 each.
    If you have a local vet mabybe you could bring the bottle of Tylan with you so they know you are going to use it legally and they could sell you some.

    That really sucks about not being able to buy needles in NJ. Unfortuneatly the ones who reall need them are the ones who can't get them, think about all the poor animals. [​IMG]
    Anyway, I've never injected into the breast, scares the bageebees out of me. I only inject under the skin on the back of the neck.


    Keep up posted about your girls, Good Luck !!!
     

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