large black hairy dog - newfoundland
They kind of look like a black great pyrenees. Nice GIANT calm, mellow slobbery dogs.
They kind of look like a black great pyrenees. Nice GIANT calm, mellow slobbery dogs.
Where oh where is my new doggy?
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Where are you? My lab just had a litter of black, lab/ mutt mixs
We have 11 so there is no shortage
They took us by surprize.... Their mama is pure chocolate lab and their daddy is a mutt if I've seen one. He was a lab mixed with some kind of boxer, bulldog, you get the picture. Black with a wrinkly nose.... every stinking one of the puppies look just like him. And their free, so if your interested PM me please
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Maybe look on-line for breed specific rescues dealing with Newfies, Bernese Mountain Dog, etc. Or Great Pyr's if you can compromise on color!
I second Standard Poodle. I have a big beautiful black boy and I adore him.
If you are not set, set, set on black - may I recommend the Anatolian Rescue site I love to watch:
http://anatolianshepherdrescue.blogspot.com/
They have purebred and crosses - some with super long pyr hair.
April 2nd we added an almost 6 year old ASD to our family, while her hair is not super long, it is very thick and finger sinking. She had never been around fowl in her life, but did guard alpacas at one time. (she did not come from the rescue, but her owners answered an add I placed looking for a LGD)
She has kept the coyotes, local dogs, and mountain lions off the property - we have not seen a coyote even wander down the road past our place since she got here. She is wonderful with our other dogs (BC and Cane Corso) and is great with the free ranging birds (geese, ducks, chickens, chicks). She is also wonderful with our horses.
She is incredibly smart and responds to recall with a gentle call of her name (NOT what I was expecting and not "typical" from what I have read).
http://anatolianshepherdrescue.blogspot.com/
They have purebred and crosses - some with super long pyr hair.
April 2nd we added an almost 6 year old ASD to our family, while her hair is not super long, it is very thick and finger sinking. She had never been around fowl in her life, but did guard alpacas at one time. (she did not come from the rescue, but her owners answered an add I placed looking for a LGD)
She has kept the coyotes, local dogs, and mountain lions off the property - we have not seen a coyote even wander down the road past our place since she got here. She is wonderful with our other dogs (BC and Cane Corso) and is great with the free ranging birds (geese, ducks, chickens, chicks). She is also wonderful with our horses.
She is incredibly smart and responds to recall with a gentle call of her name (NOT what I was expecting and not "typical" from what I have read).
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I have a collie/lab/retriever/chow mix. she's the sweetest dog ever, and she's a great guard dog, and she doesn't mind the chickens. i also have some sort of aussie mix, and because she's so smart she tends to get into trouble. she doesn't bug the chickens,really...she does like to herd them back to their pen, though
The Aussie mix, Koda.
The collie/chow/etc,Mali
The Aussie mix, Koda.
The collie/chow/etc,Mali
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I am so, so sorry to hear about Cleo! I hope you find another loyal companion to share your life and joy with.
They aren't big, black or fuzzy, buuut for me, I never wanted a cattle dog. But, what breed was the dog my husband fell in love with at the shelter? Yep. I had grown up around plenty of Australian cattle dogs/'heelers' in Nevada. Several of my friends had been bitten by them, including one by a family dog. They were aloof, and they really didn't want anything to do with you. Well, now I realize that their is a huge difference between meeting a cattle dog, and living with a cattle dog.
I will never *not* have a cattle dog from now on. I've always been a mutt person, never been one for pure breeds, but now I'll always have to have at least one purebred ACD around (a lot of mixes are being sold as purebred ACDs, if interested in the breed, PM me for some tips on how to tell the two apart).
Our heeler is the most loyal dog I have ever met. She always wants to be where you are. She recently sliced off a toe pad, and pathetically hobbled on three legs after us, until we put her in a 'stay' on the couch.
She honestly stares deeply into both our eyes, not in an aggressive way, not in a trained "what do you want me to do" way, but in an almost creepily devoted and loving way. The first week we had her, she took off after a deer. One call of her name, just one, and she was immediately back by our sides. At the dog park, she will play with other dogs, but she never goes far, and one call and she's back by you. That wasn't trained into her, she wants to be by you. She learned after five repetitions of the command to "stay on the trail" when we are hiking. We have rattlers in our area, and she will follow any paved or dirt path. Mind you, heelers are stubborn, so sometimes she needs a 'reminder', but it is very helpful to have a dog who can so easily recognize where paths are.
Yes, she is a thinker. She has the typical awareness of the breed. She will watch birds fly through the sky, and leaves rustle in the wind. She will problem solve, and is the only dog we've had that you can see figuring things out, like go around another way if the way she went down is blocked off, or how to find something that is missing by name, and what to do with it. She also is the only dog I've owned who looks out at the view on a trail, watches sunsets, and smells flowers.
After a month of getting her to trust us, she began to show the deeply protective nature the breed is known for. We lived in a bad area. She stopped three potentially very dangerous situations from happening. Once was someone rattling the door at 3am (sounded like they were trying to pick the lock, and our neighbor was robbed that week). I am so glad I've never been on the receiving end of her protective aggression. She turns from a sweet, submissive, calm dog into a frothing, growling beast. The next two times were really 'off' men trying to bother me while I was in a parked car alone with Kobar at night. She came up from the back and snarled like a dog three times her size (heelers are medium, compact dogs, but all people seem to see is their heads, which makes them look like big dogs), and both men high-tailed it out of there. She does not do this with anyone. She seems to be able to recognize who is a threat to her owners, who stresses us out, and who is not acting in a normal manner. She also seems to be able to recognize family, and curls up with my husband's mother...which she will not do with anyone else but us. She is merely wary with friends, and so long as you teach a heeler who is to be trusted (we use the keyword 'friend'), and socialize them well, you'll have a dog who is aloof with others, but only aggressive when needed.
Her loving side is what you most commonly see though. She is an angel with our other pets, big and small. She grooms our cats, when our rat escaped his cage, she came and got us. When our angora rabbit had two unsuccessful eye surgeries and was going to have to be put down soon, she lay in front of his cage and whimpered the day he started showing great pain and was taken to the vet. On a walk, she stopped dead and would not move. She did not get up until we found a fallen baby bird lying on the sidewalk in distress. Not that any heeler will be this good with animals. But, I have heard a lot of heeler stories similar to hers. She loves to cuddle with us as well, and more than once, I have turned over in the night and mistaken her for my husband! Her favorite activity is getting under the blankets, and using a pillow like a person would.
She has endless stamina on the trails, but she is a heeler through and through. Yes they are tough dogs. Yes, they can face down bulls. But, I often hear of heelers like our little girl who have their quirks. People having to carry their oh so fierce heelers over tiny creeks so they don't get their feet wet. In Ko's case, mud is the Swamp of Sadness to her. If her feet sink in, she will lie down and whine until you come and walk with her out of the patch. They can be the biggest babies with their owners. There is a lot of trust they put in you, and if you take care of them, they will take care of you.
(She always watches from the windows when we leave for work, and when we come home)
That said, the breed is not for everyone. They are one person dogs, and this was shown in the friend who was bitten by her father's dog. The dad had not socialized the dog with the rest of the family, and when he was play fighting with his daughter, the dog saw a threat and bit her. So, you have to be on top of these dogs. They will do a lot of thinking on their own, so if you see them getting the wrong idea, you have to be two steps ahead to correct it. My husband and I did everything together (fed her, walked her, let her out to pee) from the day we got her. Seems to have worked like a charm, as she is equally devoted to us both. I've heard of so many heelers that will be aggressive or not listen to the wife or husband, but love the other spouse, so I can not stress how important addressing that is. They are high on the bite list. Very high. Aggression is bred into them, largely in the area of protection. Socialization is a must. They have dingo in their background. Their behaviors are not always like other dogs, and they are amazing at sniffing out water. You might see some quirks related to their background. They have a need for constant mental stimulation. That one is bigger than needing exercise for this breed. It helps if you raise them in your home as family, rather than out in a yard. You are pretty much begging for an aggressive heeler if you tie one outside. They also have dalmatian in them, which you can see when they are born as all white (except where solid patches of color will be) pups. This is probably partly where they get their massive energy from.
PS they are also eerily quiet. I usually only see them bark if someone is too near your property or if they are actively defending you.
They aren't big, black or fuzzy, buuut for me, I never wanted a cattle dog. But, what breed was the dog my husband fell in love with at the shelter? Yep. I had grown up around plenty of Australian cattle dogs/'heelers' in Nevada. Several of my friends had been bitten by them, including one by a family dog. They were aloof, and they really didn't want anything to do with you. Well, now I realize that their is a huge difference between meeting a cattle dog, and living with a cattle dog.
I will never *not* have a cattle dog from now on. I've always been a mutt person, never been one for pure breeds, but now I'll always have to have at least one purebred ACD around (a lot of mixes are being sold as purebred ACDs, if interested in the breed, PM me for some tips on how to tell the two apart).
Our heeler is the most loyal dog I have ever met. She always wants to be where you are. She recently sliced off a toe pad, and pathetically hobbled on three legs after us, until we put her in a 'stay' on the couch.
Yes, she is a thinker. She has the typical awareness of the breed. She will watch birds fly through the sky, and leaves rustle in the wind. She will problem solve, and is the only dog we've had that you can see figuring things out, like go around another way if the way she went down is blocked off, or how to find something that is missing by name, and what to do with it. She also is the only dog I've owned who looks out at the view on a trail, watches sunsets, and smells flowers.
After a month of getting her to trust us, she began to show the deeply protective nature the breed is known for. We lived in a bad area. She stopped three potentially very dangerous situations from happening. Once was someone rattling the door at 3am (sounded like they were trying to pick the lock, and our neighbor was robbed that week). I am so glad I've never been on the receiving end of her protective aggression. She turns from a sweet, submissive, calm dog into a frothing, growling beast. The next two times were really 'off' men trying to bother me while I was in a parked car alone with Kobar at night. She came up from the back and snarled like a dog three times her size (heelers are medium, compact dogs, but all people seem to see is their heads, which makes them look like big dogs), and both men high-tailed it out of there. She does not do this with anyone. She seems to be able to recognize who is a threat to her owners, who stresses us out, and who is not acting in a normal manner. She also seems to be able to recognize family, and curls up with my husband's mother...which she will not do with anyone else but us. She is merely wary with friends, and so long as you teach a heeler who is to be trusted (we use the keyword 'friend'), and socialize them well, you'll have a dog who is aloof with others, but only aggressive when needed.
Her loving side is what you most commonly see though. She is an angel with our other pets, big and small. She grooms our cats, when our rat escaped his cage, she came and got us. When our angora rabbit had two unsuccessful eye surgeries and was going to have to be put down soon, she lay in front of his cage and whimpered the day he started showing great pain and was taken to the vet. On a walk, she stopped dead and would not move. She did not get up until we found a fallen baby bird lying on the sidewalk in distress. Not that any heeler will be this good with animals. But, I have heard a lot of heeler stories similar to hers. She loves to cuddle with us as well, and more than once, I have turned over in the night and mistaken her for my husband! Her favorite activity is getting under the blankets, and using a pillow like a person would.
She has endless stamina on the trails, but she is a heeler through and through. Yes they are tough dogs. Yes, they can face down bulls. But, I often hear of heelers like our little girl who have their quirks. People having to carry their oh so fierce heelers over tiny creeks so they don't get their feet wet. In Ko's case, mud is the Swamp of Sadness to her. If her feet sink in, she will lie down and whine until you come and walk with her out of the patch. They can be the biggest babies with their owners. There is a lot of trust they put in you, and if you take care of them, they will take care of you.
That said, the breed is not for everyone. They are one person dogs, and this was shown in the friend who was bitten by her father's dog. The dad had not socialized the dog with the rest of the family, and when he was play fighting with his daughter, the dog saw a threat and bit her. So, you have to be on top of these dogs. They will do a lot of thinking on their own, so if you see them getting the wrong idea, you have to be two steps ahead to correct it. My husband and I did everything together (fed her, walked her, let her out to pee) from the day we got her. Seems to have worked like a charm, as she is equally devoted to us both. I've heard of so many heelers that will be aggressive or not listen to the wife or husband, but love the other spouse, so I can not stress how important addressing that is. They are high on the bite list. Very high. Aggression is bred into them, largely in the area of protection. Socialization is a must. They have dingo in their background. Their behaviors are not always like other dogs, and they are amazing at sniffing out water. You might see some quirks related to their background. They have a need for constant mental stimulation. That one is bigger than needing exercise for this breed. It helps if you raise them in your home as family, rather than out in a yard. You are pretty much begging for an aggressive heeler if you tie one outside. They also have dalmatian in them, which you can see when they are born as all white (except where solid patches of color will be) pups. This is probably partly where they get their massive energy from.
PS they are also eerily quiet. I usually only see them bark if someone is too near your property or if they are actively defending you.
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Great to read everyone's thoughts on this.
Some of our considerations have been: We want 100 lbs +/- because both of us had used Cleo to boost us up from awkward positions ( we aren't spring chickens!) Therapy dog use is not out of the question in our choice.
We also do some limited traveling in a camper /motel when visiting family. Many breeds are not allowed in some campgrounds. Fuzzy dogs, however large, have more positive appeal to strangers than slick haired dogs. It may not be a fair perception, but it's something we need to consider in choosing a breed. Likewise, some breeds are not liked by home insurance companies. We have enough hassles without adding one there.
We are a laid back couple and would match a laid back dog better. Our local trainer breeds Belgian Sheps and while we really adore them, we wonder if they are too hyper for us.
Great Pyrs we've seriously thought about, but everyone says they need visible fences. We are in farmland but the farms are under 100 acres with no fences. Our dog's local range would be 1000 ft in every direction, maximum. ( That is not they extent she could go, but the extent we would allow her to go.) Pyr rescues in particular insist on fences.
Aussies /cattle dogs are wonderful but no thanks. We do not want a one-person dog. Plus, their hair flies all over! Family members have them, and love them. For us, it's not in the cards
Newfs are a possibility. Cleo's breed of Black Russian Terrier was created in part with Newfy. They may be light in the protection department and heavy on the slobber. I'd like input on that!!
I'd go for a Rotty for the size and protection, but that is a big insurance/guard dog impression no-no.
We've seen a few St. Bernards. They have a rather short life span if we get an adult and many slobber well But a good Saint could still be in the running.
We are leaning towards Bouviers- the French farm dog.
I like the idea of a farm dog background in breeding. Farm dogs know they have a purpose in life and only the strong/smart survive. The problem as I see it is that many modern dogs are very much removed from their original jobs and lose the instincts they originally were bred for. That's why we've been looking at the rarer breeds that are closer to what the original intent was. And since they are $$, we are looking at rescues. But the rescues want fences. It's a vicious circle!
Some of our considerations have been: We want 100 lbs +/- because both of us had used Cleo to boost us up from awkward positions ( we aren't spring chickens!) Therapy dog use is not out of the question in our choice.
We also do some limited traveling in a camper /motel when visiting family. Many breeds are not allowed in some campgrounds. Fuzzy dogs, however large, have more positive appeal to strangers than slick haired dogs. It may not be a fair perception, but it's something we need to consider in choosing a breed. Likewise, some breeds are not liked by home insurance companies. We have enough hassles without adding one there.
We are a laid back couple and would match a laid back dog better. Our local trainer breeds Belgian Sheps and while we really adore them, we wonder if they are too hyper for us.
Great Pyrs we've seriously thought about, but everyone says they need visible fences. We are in farmland but the farms are under 100 acres with no fences. Our dog's local range would be 1000 ft in every direction, maximum. ( That is not they extent she could go, but the extent we would allow her to go.) Pyr rescues in particular insist on fences.
Aussies /cattle dogs are wonderful but no thanks. We do not want a one-person dog. Plus, their hair flies all over! Family members have them, and love them. For us, it's not in the cards
Newfs are a possibility. Cleo's breed of Black Russian Terrier was created in part with Newfy. They may be light in the protection department and heavy on the slobber. I'd like input on that!!
I'd go for a Rotty for the size and protection, but that is a big insurance/guard dog impression no-no.
We've seen a few St. Bernards. They have a rather short life span if we get an adult and many slobber well
But a good Saint could still be in the running.We are leaning towards Bouviers- the French farm dog.
I like the idea of a farm dog background in breeding. Farm dogs know they have a purpose in life and only the strong/smart survive. The problem as I see it is that many modern dogs are very much removed from their original jobs and lose the instincts they originally were bred for. That's why we've been looking at the rarer breeds that are closer to what the original intent was. And since they are $$, we are looking at rescues. But the rescues want fences. It's a vicious circle!
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