Which came first.....Chicken or Egg?

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Yep.

Of course, I do not understand the mechanism by which so great a mutation occurs, to change one species into another. A change of feather color or shape, yes, a shift of body carriage or beak shape, yes. But given that most mutations are deleterious to the creature, and lead to it being eaten or otherwise vanishing from the gene pool in a hurry....

Yes, most mutations are deleterious. But given millions upon millions of years, you have more than enough time for the occasional positive mutation to make a difference. Most people think that there's some kind of firm line that exists when species divide, but that's not really what happens. What happens is that populations gradually get separated and follow their own evolutionary paths, to the point that they no long mate with the other group due to disinclination or physical impossibility, or both. When that happens they are deemed to be distinct species. So talking about a non-chicken laying an egg that hatches a chicken, while technically correct, presents the wrong impression. What actually happened was that a bird that was highly chicken-like laid an egg that hatched a bird that was even more chicken-like (that is, more like the designation for chickens we have today), and that bird qualified genetically as Gallus Gallus.

According to biologist Dana Krempels ,
The very first organisms that produced an amniotic egg were terrestrial, reptile-like animals that didn't have feathers. But one branch of this lineage did evolve and give rise to the feathered reptiles we now know as birds. This change resulted from various forces, including natural selection, genetic drift (evolutionary change due to random chance and small population size) and chance mutations that proved beneficial to the individuals that inherited them. The first, ancestral "birds" were pretty much small, feathered dinosaurs. They laid amniotic eggs, but they weren't chickens. Some of their descendants evolved into today's chickens.

So if you want to take the "chicken or egg" question literally, then the egg evolved long before there were any chickens. It was only much later that the first "chicken" popped out of that amniotic egg that had given rise to many other species before.

So there's a longer answer than you probably ever wanted.
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If evolution exists, and two creatures of different species can mate to produce a new species, why can't science reproduce this phoenomena? Horse/donkey, horse/zebra, and tiger/lion crosses produce offspring chromosomally different from their parents, but as a rule, they are sterile, dead ends. Darwin didn't even believe in evolution. He wrote "On the Origin of Species", simply observations on natural selection and musings about what might happen or might have happened to create the vast variety of fauna and flora that we have today. The isolated birds on the island were not a different species than those on the mainland, they were just particularly well suited to their environment.

In short ----- chicken.
 
Egg has to have come first, otherwise what would the chicken have hatched from? Evolution is the answer. Lets say chickens once had webbed feet, which was unsuitable for them, the mother would lay an egg, and out hatched the modern day chicken, I got this answer from 'Can Cows Walk Down The Stairs?' and they answered saying that. The egg had to had come first.
 
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That's not how evolution works. Scroll up to my last post-- evolution works by members of the same species mating, and genetic mutations arising in their progeny which make that progeny more likely to survive and reproduce, passing those mutations on to the point that that line of creatures becomes a different species than its ancestors.

why can't science reproduce this phoenomena?

Science has produced new species. See: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html Also see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5080298.stm

Darwin didn't even believe in evolution. He wrote "On the Origin of Species", simply observations on natural selection and musings about what might happen or might have happened to create the vast variety of fauna and flora that we have today. The isolated birds on the island were not a different species than those on the mainland, they were just particularly well suited to their environment.

The theory of evolution already existed before Darwin was born, and he definitely believed in it-- he was simply the one who came up with the means, natural selection, and he reached that conclusion through observation of different adaptations within a species.

Not that this thread needs to turn into a big evolution/creationism argument, but I couldn't leave those points alone.
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Everyone knows the answer to that one ! Of course the
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was first. The Lord would not have left eggs laying around with no mother to hatch them.

Thats a given.
 
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so u r getting at that the chicken was produced from other species of birds mating and the first chicken hatched form a combo of these birds so the egg was first. that is good theory
 
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