Which Warmblood stallion to breed to? Update:Riding the mare!

[danischi24]

The stallions I showed were just an indication of type, I don't want to breed to any of them. I'm not strictly looking for dressage. Just a nice piece of horseflesh between my knees. I'd like to use an older, less fashionable stallion as the $1000 plus for the more fashionable ones will be a waste for a foal that will never do anything high level. I want live foal guarantee too. I'll get some pics of the mare later today but her bloodlines are pointless because, no one will recognize the first few generations, being Israeli bred. The mare is big with nice, flat movement & a high strung temperament. She hasn't been ridden since her racing years.

 

[patandchickens]

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Any other kind of discussion -- anything that does not involve seeing pics of the mare -- is just discussing who's yer favorite poster boy.


Pat

 

[EweSheep]

Nice looking mare. Bloodlines do have some kind of "idea" what the horse is made of. Even she is Israeli bred, going back that far can tell us what exactly she has such as Bold Ruler, Secretariat, Seattle Slew, etc. of the older classics.

Please be realistic about getting a foal like those "poster stallions" because it can either disappoint you or elate you. Look around for some warmbloods in your area, even you might have to search far and wide outside of your country for that mare to be bred to a very good stallion. Her expression looks nice but need some refinement because there is some coarseness about it, almost "muley" in appearance. I am not that familiar with TBs conformations and I am sure someone more knowledgeable would come along. I like balanced horses in conformation and disposition. If your mare has a "nasty" attitude, you can bet the foal will be also because the imprint she will instill in the foal, no matter how sweet the stallion would be. IMO.

If we can not critique your mare, what would you expect us to look for in a stallion for you? If you want performance riding horse, we would critique the mare's good and bad faults and find a stallion that would make those weak areas stronger and stronger areas, even better. Get her front knees left front leg (some puffiness in cannon bone) checked out, something weird about it, shapewise. Did she suffer an injury at anytime of her life?

 

[welsummerchicks]

Nice mare but not broodmare material.

 

[patandchickens]

Well then I can't be of any use I guess because I was brought up that you choose a stallion to complement/correct the mare's CONFORMATION (as well as temperament and athleticism). But you've made it clear that we're not to concern ourselves about what her strengths and weaknesses of conformation ARE (and you certainly can't tell much from those pics).

To me, that's like saying "tell me what's a good pair of shoes for me to buy to hike the Appalachian Trail for three months, but I'm only telling you what size feet I have, don't be expecting me to try shoes ON or anything like that, or even tell you what other make/model shoes fit me well"

So I dunno how to do it your way except maybe just pick a purty color and cross fingers. Have fun,

Pat

 

[patandchickens]

oops, duplicate

 

[danischi24]

She has an old injury to that cannon bone & knee. It's calcified, not puffy. We don't have fabulous quality horses in this country so yes, she would certainly be considered a broodmare here. We don't have warmbloods in the country except for a few geldings & mares as competition horses. I think there's one stallion & he's not too nice. She has a nice temperament, just hot. When I say don't critique her, what I really meant was not to knock her as unbroodmare worthy as this isn't the US & we don't have the same quality of horse here. I'm just looking for a beautiful, refined great moving riding horse with a certain stamp in this foal. I doubt it will ever see a serious competition ring.

 

[babyblue]

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this is also not the us and the quality and level of horses there are not on par. what you and I consider nice ridding horses are spectacular (very very expensive) finds there. for the area and general quality of horses I know she is dealing with hell yes I would use that mare. I would breed her to the best and most proven stud I could afford but yea given the area and quality issues barring any unsoundness or defect we cant see shes a catch.

 

[Peaches Lee]

Do you plan on using a semen broker from the US or direct from Germany/Netherlands?

Live foal garuntee is very hard to find using frozen and most of the time is not offered, however there are some that are LFG (Sandreo is one of them actually).

I actually think your mare is quite nice. A very pretty, refined head, good neck. Honestly when I see "thoroughbred" and "been raced" I automatically assume the horse will have some sort of leg injury, no big deal.

So, do have any idea what stallion you are looking for? The older ones will not be as refined, however they usually have a shot of TB blood, so to a TB, you should have a more refined foal, but that's not always certain. They will also have progeny that are quite successful, and a lower stud fee.

 

[SourRoses]

Bay is such a dominant gene... you have a high probability of getting bay no matter what you breed to.

You know, you can have eggs shipped to you as well as semen... implant in any mare... it's done quite often here...though the vet is the most expensive part. For the surrogate mares (or mules!), temperament is the most deciding factor, besides health, because of the impression made on the foals.
Not trying to pick on you, really not, but 'Anything goes' in the way of temperament may be something you wished you hadn't said a few years from now.
So, you can't be picky... don't want to spend much.. don't care about conformation (though that is part in parcel of looking good, moving well, health and soundness even)... at the very least, pick a mare with a nice temperament. Then at least, if you end up re-homing the foal because it turns out to not be a 'nice peice of horseflesh', those people wont have a complete ninny-com-poop to deal with.. or possibly be injured by.
I do sincerely hope you wind up with something nice!